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So I finally got around to installing my Garrett Powermax Stage 2 GT3782R water cooled ball bearing turbo. I wanted to do it earlier but other things got in the way, like a noisy release bearing and life in general. The truck was parked most of the winter. But with the Cummins plant tour just a few weeks away I figured I better get my butt in gear. Reading this thread helped a lot https://www.turbodieselregister.com...ge-2-GT3782R-Install-Review&highlight=Garrett. Thanks AH64ID your pictures helped better than the instructions that came with the turbo as some pictures were 2nd gen and some were 3rd. I had been waiting for a Steed Speed exhaust manifold but I couldn't get one and the price had gone up. When I came across a good used AFE Bladerunner stainless steel one and the price was fight ( I traded some parts for it ) I started the install.

Last summer one of my CAC hose slipped off while towing and my pre turbo pyro hit 1500 and my boost dropped to 2. I think my heart also stopped for a second. The turbo started to pump some oil after that. It wasn't noticeable while driving but if you got the engine hot and let it sit for say 10-15 minutes and then took off you got a major smoke cloud. I pulled off the intake horn and it had some oil residue in it so now I had the excuse to get a new turbo. :)

On Tuesday ( it was my day off ) I loaded up the Jeep and drove out to my buddies acreage to start on the job. It is about 40 minutes across town and then out in the country. When I got there I realised I had forgotten to put the exhaust manifold in the Jeep. :{ I started disassembly anyway. It would take me 2 hours to go get the manifold and a few other things, like my camera so I could take pictures to show you. There was evidence of oil in the turbo hose going to the Charge Air Cooler. I knew I had to have the CAC cleaned so I used the pressure washer. As I was flipping it over to flush in the other direction I noticed a small stream of water coming from the bottom tube. Great now I need a new cooler. While it is always good to do an upgrade having to spent more money right now wasn't in my plans. I ordered a Duralite. It arrived today.

Taking the old parts out wasn't a problem but as I have said before anytime you do a mod it comes back to bite you later. This time it was my PacBrake that didn't fit with the new turbo. It had to come off and get the bracket modified for clearance with the intake housing. I took off the RF tire and removed the inner fender. I removed the PacBrake and the turbo thru there. The manifold came out the top. Some people, those younger than me and with a better back, remove it all as an assembly out the top. While AH64ID in his thread said he had trouble with the back water pipe and the actuator rod I didn't. This should have been a clue for later. What I later discovered was that my turbo needed to be "clocked" that is have the three different parts of the turbo rotated so that the center section was in a different orientation. Since the exhaust snail has to be bolted to the manifold you can't move it, so I figured I would loosen the 4 bolts that hold the center section to it and rotated it slightly so I could get my drain tube lined up correctly. I needed a short wrench to get at the back one but I discovered that it is bolted not clamped like the old turbo so I couldn't rotate it anyway.

My truck is an 03 so it has the solid drain pipe with a hose and a nipple installed in the block. Garrett gives you a new drain pipe that is angled differently. I couldn't get either one to line up. I ended up using the flex style from the 04. 5 and newer engines, but that meant getting the nipple out of the block. I used a pair of Vise Grips, a long thick punch, made from a shift rail out of a 18 speed trans, and a hammer and it finally came out. I currently have the manifold the turbo and Brake all mounted. BTW just like AH64ID did I had to use a shorter turbo mounting bolt as the ones Garrett give you are 45mm ( 1 3/4 " ) long. I tried a 40mm bolt and it fit so I cut off 5mm or about 4 threads from one of the bolts and it worked. The short bolt points down and the longer one on the outer front hole goes in from the bottom. The curve of the after market manifold is smoother. I wish they would use 2 studs in it like Cummins does. I also had to modify the stock water tube that goes to the heater hose as it also wouldn't fit because of the curve of the new manifold. I had to use a turbo mounting nut to hold in on instead of the original one because the flange is smaller.

I took the night off tonight from working on my truck as I am tired and my family was wondering what I looked like. I left the camera out there and I will post picture later. It WILL get finished this weekend as I still have to clean and load the camper for the trip. I want to get some run time on the new setup before I leave town.

Shad
 
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So the truck is running and seems to be good, no leaks so far only have 100 kms ( 60 miles ) on it. I could not get the out board water pipe to fit. It was almost like the banjo head was at the wrong angle and the pipe dropped down too far because it hit the frame rail. The kit came with 3 water pipes so I took the extra one and cut it and made it work my way. Time will tell if I did it right.



Here you can see how the pipe is supposed to go. You replace the stock one with it. This pipe goes around the outside of the oil filter

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This is how I did it. I reused the original pipe but added the new 90* hose to the end of it added a straightened piece of the extra pipe and some silicone hose to the join it with the cut banjo end. The 2 black pipes were joined together originally. The "used" hose was for test purposes.



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Sorry about the focus problem Bifocals are a pain at times :) Here is how I modified the hose bracket:



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Here are some old vs new pictures

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AFE BladRunner stainless exhaust manifold

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I also changed the CAC hoses to BD ones and added a Duralite cooler. I didn't take a pic of that but it looks similar but instead of being welded at the tanks it uses silicone rubber grommets to take the vibrations

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Taking the tire off and removing the inner fender makes it a lot easier to work on. You can see 8 extra hose that I have added for one reason or another.

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Drove to Columbus and back ( 7100 kms - 4400 miles ) round trip. Truck ran and performed just great. With 9'9" camper on back weighed in at almost 12k lbs. Averaged about 12 mpg US ( or 14 mpg- Imperial for you old Canadians ) or 20 litres per 100kms for the younger/modern Canadians. Boost is lower than stock under light throttle but will hit higher when pushed- 26 as compared to 23 with the stock turbo. EGT's stayed around 600 at cruising speed with boost around 6-8 but hit 950* F and 18 # when going up a long grade still doing 110 kph ( 70 mph ) with no problem on cruise in 6th gear. The turbo does have a whistle to it but at highway speed you don't hear it because of the tire whine on the road and the wind noise from the camper. Over all I am happy with the combo. David aka Shad
 
I thought I would give an update on my new turbo and manifold. I now have over 11000 kms or about 7000 miles on it. Other than a minor coolant seepage, which I fixed by retightening the clamps several times, I haven't had any issues. I am real pleased with the new set up and am getting used to the turbo whine. ( If you pay too much attention to it you will drive it harder if you know what I mean :D ) I have done several trips around Alberta this summer now including some into the mountains. I didn't have the Smarty on for the trip to Columbus but have since added it for the mountains ( # 3 - 60 horse with timing ) It is even more impressive towing compared to hauling as I am about 6k lbs heavier with the trailer compared to the slide in. EGT's are lower as is the boost but when you add fuel they both climb. The EGT's stay lower than before but the boost goes up higher as stated above. I'm sure the new CAC also helped. Since I did the turbo, exh man CAC and boots all at once it is hard to say which one made the most difference but I would pick the turbo. It only makes sense do do them all at once. I didn't do the intake horn for several reasons, cost being one and since I am "only" running 300+ HP I didn't think it would make enough difference to justify the expense. If I can score a free one I will put it on. :)

The only "negative" thing, if I can call it that, is it takes a bit longer for the engine to cool down, as there is hot coolant in the turbo as well. This is not normally a problem unless you have to do a quick stop or when you pull into a rest stop for example. I had to put the pryo probe in the front port because when I tried to install it in the rear one it got in the way of the heater hoses as I have my Espar plumbed in there.

I now have about 33k kms or 20k miles on my new drive train

David
 
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