Interesting article about a State Trooper

[BMH95]

Ok, ok. I'll turn it down a notch or three. I'm just fed up with the apathetic culture of our country these days. I just wish people would take responsiblity for their own actions, and cease the mentality that you have to take take take. Self control and self responsibility are the key to the future. Morality, in a nutshell will save us. Governments, their bodies and arms, allways turn corrupt. ALLWAYS. The police are not about protection any longer. They are about control. And that's the way big socialist governments need it if they are going to gain more power, or even just survive.

 

[Thunderbolt]

Also COPS ARE ALSO CIVILIANS!!! It's rediculous to refer to police as officers and we civilians. They are not military. They are just as subject to the law as we are.

In Jersey the lefty libreal lawyers hold us to a much higher standard of the law. I am guilty until proven innocent. You all are innocent until proven guilty.



The question is about whether the cop was wrong using an out-of-state tag. I agree that the tag use is wrong. Using an unmarked car to enforce traffic law is not wrong. I've taught my wife and daughter that if they are in doubt of the identity of a car trying to pull them over, or are afraid of the location they should put their hazard lights on to acknowlege the cars actions and drive safely to a more populated area or the nearest Polce Station. No one should hold that against anyone.



Also-Don't paint every cop with a broad brush. We're not all Beaufort T. Justice. Jersey by the way has a strict physical fitness standard for our Troopers.

The bottom line is this: If you had a bad experience with one, it doesn't mean we are all like that one. That's like saying all lawyers are crooks... OK Bad example.

 

[Buck88]

Ok, ok. I'll turn it down a notch or three. I'm just fed up with the apathetic culture of our country these days. I just wish people would take responsiblity for their own actions, and cease the mentality that you have to take take take. Self control and self responsibility are the key to the future. Morality, in a nutshell will save us. Governments, their bodies and arms, allways turn corrupt. ALLWAYS. The police are not about protection any longer. They are about control. And that's the way big socialist governments need it if they are going to gain more power, or even just survive.

I think were on the same page here actually. I'm not out for control, or corruption. I'm simply becoming an officer because I feel it is the best way to give back to the community. I also want a safer place for my future children to grow up in, and I want those people that take take take to take responsibility for their actions. And the fact of the matter is, LE put their lives on the line to apprehend those people. But you're right, many cops are cops for the control they have, and they are are evident when issuing a ticket. But as for the ones that are trully out to help, have some respect for someone who is truthfully trying to protect and serve his or her community and its citizens. Like I said, I guess it all comes down to the reason you join. Theres an old saying, everybody loves a firefighter, but everybody hates a cop.

 

[Buck88]

Good luck Buck! Hope it works out for ya!

Thank you, I take the entrance exam in mid-February. The odds are against me being a Diabetic white male.

 

[Chief USA]

Buck, I am sure you have the best of intentions.



I hope you will keep an open mind if and when you get hired and not buy into the brainwashing hogwash most police departments put their cadets through.



Remember people make honest mistakes and to hammer them with an expensive ticket, lawyers fees, and time off work for an unintentional honest mistake just verifies the stereotype perception the public has of the police. Give the benefit of the doubt and let common sense prevail. Don't get your ego all wrapped around the axle about "who is in control" of a situation when someone asks a question.



Sadly, when the new wears off of it you will find that for the most part the police are nothing more than armed revenue collection agents for a second malignant revenue siezure organization that does the same thing as the IRS only with different abusive powers. That second organization is our judicial system and its courts. Justice rarely if EVER prevails there. The folks who nearly always win are the lawyers and the court who extort money from decent people and let the criminals off with a slap on the wrist.



With RARE exceptions the lawyers are nothing more than prostitutes who monopolize and exploit access and representation in the court system.



You will very likely find in most case, public prosecutors are nothing more than ego maniacs who are "judicial rapists".



Hate to sound like sour grapes, just callin' it like it is.



On the subject of this idiot who put his personal tags on his unmarked car, he should be fired and prosecuted for it. Not only did he break the law, he undermined his fellow officers by calling into question whether his cruiser was a fake police vehicle potentially causing people to consider refusing or have doubts about pulling over when directed to. This also puts his fellow officers in potential danger when someone refuses to pull over or uses their legal permit carry gun to protect themselve from what they honestly may believe is a fake police officer. It is not likely but it HAS happened before. Lastly it just undermines the publics perception of the police integrity and honesty. This does a huge injustice to decent, honest, and good charactered cops.



I can only speak to the situation in Tennessee and in my area. Our county law enforcement is so rotten, our children are withdrawn from school ANYTIME ANY County law enforcement officer is on the school grounds. These are the same thugs who turn a blind eye to underage kids drinking alcohol, when they are out long after curfew, not to mention personally observing them coaching people on what to say in statements that are knowly false, making false affidavits, committing theft, and making threats to decent law abiding people.



Set a good example and do the right thing.

 

[Buck88]

Well, I hope to be a positive influence on the view that people hold about police. I hear the complaints people have. I like to think that I have a good head, and my parents raised me right. I'm all about second chances, Lord knows i've had mine, and am very greatful to the officers that granted them to me. Just dont condenm them all because of the mistakes of some.

 

[daveshoe]

What about the situation when you really want a cop to show up and ''do something'' when someone puts us in danger? I posted recently about a kid shooting at me[pellet rifle] and lasering my eye and complained loud and long about the response of the cops. To be fair to them,they stated that the judge would kick it out of juvy court. The biggest problem you have when you call the cops on someone is to escalate the problem when the law is not enforced.

In my case the kid's father used two large dogs to intimidate me. The dogs were ready to attack every time he purposely left the gates open. All he had to do was slam the gates shut when the cops showed up for him to have plausible deniability about the threat the dogs presented.

Instead of playing his game [calling the cops],I mounted a shotgun right on the roof I was working on. I figured if the cops were called I could not be charged with inducing panic because the firearm was not pointed at anyone,or even in my hand. The gun was not intended to threaten the neighbor,but to stop the threat of his dogs. [in case I had to get off the roof]

It worked like a charm when the neighbor looked up. The look on his face was priceless when he noticed the shotgun.

Absolutely no problems since from him ,his dogs or his kids.

 

[JasonCzerak]

I've been singled out of a group 200 cars when the cops cleared a street racing area.



Cop: I've seen you around, come and go come and go.

Me: So have about 200 other cars. .

Me: So why have I been pulled over in a public parking lot sir? (as I was going to the gas station to use the rest room and get something to drink, honestly)

Cop: I need your Drive lic. and proof of insurance



I provide the information.



Cop: There are no out standing warrants (never had one to begin with... ). I don't want to see you around here again, or I'll find out everything that is illegal with your truck.

Me: Sir, there is nothing illegal with my truck. Infact, this stop is illegal as you have no probable cause.

Cop: I see you have out of state place and lic still.

Me: Nothing wrong with my proper registration from another state sir.

Cop: Leave and don't come back.



Argggh... I wish I had the cash and time to fight back... . I seem to be in the right 99% of the time. Sure, I was illegally there with the street racing, but we all drove 2 miles away and I get put on stage in the middle of the parking lot and farked with.



I did leave for the night, but really now, that was out of line. I was soooo close to just calling and finding someone in management to file a complaint. But I just let it go cuz they'll be even more crabby the next week or whenever.

 

[BMH95]

Buck88, there are good cops all over. Just resist the pressure to conform to the bad apples. Remember, the bad apples will feel uncomfortable if you are different. It threatens them, because you might not let them get away with abusive behavior, or are at minimum a risk to their status quo / job. I don't like throwing in the towel and writing off the cops, so make a positive influence and prove us wrong!!



I just watch Smoky and the Bandit Saturday night! Ha, Beaufort T Justice it awsome.