2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Jardine Ordered - Any tips?

[rono]

I ordered my Jardine 4" yesterday and was wondering if there were any tips or tricks I should know before and during the install? Also how much time should I allow for the install? I'll probably be doing it by myself. Thanks.

Ron

 

[Big White Beast]

2-3 hours.......

Depending on your skill level.



I would recommend mounting the muff forward of the middle hanger right after the first straight piece instead of the stock location. This will avoid any drone issues. Use strap clamps to join the pipes, you wont damage the joints that way. Their hangers aren't the greatest so you should be able to move them off the joint enough to be able to take it apart if necessary.



That's my advice,



Garrett

 

[1tuffram]

I just installed a Bully Dog 4" a few days ago on a 2002 ETH quad cab. If you are like most and have to cut the OEM system off due to overtightening of the clamps... You can remove the whole thing with only one stratigically placed Sawzall cut. Make the cut about 3 inches after the downpipe hanger rod (the rod welded to the downpipe which inserts into a mount on the transmission). After making this cut you can feed the downpipe up into the engine compartment enough for the cut end to clear the frame member and drop down. You will need a helper to remove the section from resonator to tailpipe. To remove this large section I fed the tailpipe up over the axle toward the front of the truck while a helper guided it all out from under the passengers side of the truck. It also looked like it could be pulled out the back if you remove the spare tire. Of coarse if you don't want to salvage any of the OEM system and have no helper, then cut the exhaust into smaller managable sections. I just wanted to try and salvage as much as possible so I could place it in my '95 truck. I'll probably only be able to use the down pipe and resonator. I'm hoping the emission nazies will think the resonator is a cat. Actually if I'm only able to replace the cat with the resonator and it fools the emissions people I'll be a very happy camper!!



Like mentioned by Big White Beast try placing the muffler forward the OEM muffler location. My Bully Dog system came with 2 sections of straight pipe (a short piece and a long one) I believe I place the long pipe after the down pipe and then the muffler, this placed the muffler about where the resonator used to be. The rear joint of the muffler is now being held by the hanger which originally held the front of the OEM muffler. I was worried about the Bully Dog muffler only being supported by a hanger on one end, but it appears to be solid enough that I decided to leave it there and not move it further back to where the OEM muffler was so it could be supported on both ends. Since I have no welder I was not able to be creative like Big White Beast and offset everything so band clamps could be used on all joints and re-fab a new hangers. For what it's worth I feel the Bully Dog hangers are also lame, the OEM hangers I feel are much better. I'm going to take the old OEM exhaust into a shop and see if they can weld the OEM hanger rods onto the Bully Dog pipe and do away with some of the cheesy Bully Dog hangers which clamp to the 4" pipe. The OEM system had 2 hangers welded to the tailpipe section. Bully Dog only supplies 1 hanger which clamps to the pipe and the fit leaves a lot to be desired... ... one end of the rod hits the spare tire and the other side hits the rear leaf spring when going over pot-holes, speed bumps, railroad crossings, etc. Thus another reason to have the OEM hanger rods WELDED to the Bully Dog tailpipe section.

 

[TomGolden]

Well, I was going to say don't install the muffler at all but on my 4" Jardine straight piped system, there is a very noticeable in cab drone from 2000 - 2500 RPM since I removed my muffler 4 months ago. I personally can live with it, as I absolutely the sounds of that straight pipe system, but I would think most people that don't suffer from as much diesel on the brain as I do, would not appreciate the drone.



Anyway, you will thoroughly love the Jardine system. Top quality and you can't beat the price.



Tom

 

[Mallory]

While you have the exhaust off spray a few coats of undercoating under the truck as thick as possible. Spray and let it dry then do it again. It made a big difference on my truck. Also if you have a quad cab insulate behind the rear seat where it attaches against the cab those two tricks will make a big improvement in the cab noise levels.

 

[_Hyde]

Dittos on the Sawzall!

This is what makes this project most easy. I got a, well acquaintence now, that has a phraud now but we can install in about 45 min. If you feel like making a road trip out to Dallas you could come out for the Big D Dodge Diesel Club meeting and we could install here. Even if you can't I don't think going at it solo would be too bad.



Darren

 

[IdaH.O.Train]

Aside from the afore mentioned, if you have a buddy that can help, it does come in handy.

 

[Doc Tinker]

I run my Jardine without a tip



Doc

 

[rono]

First, Thanks everyone for answers and input.



Tom, since installing my 315's my rpm's at 70mph is only about 17 to 1800. I may try it without the muffler.



Hyde you have a PM.



Mallory, good idea on the undercoating and insulating behind the rear seat. Where can I get some, and are there different brands, (some better that others)?



Again, Thanks everyone, I knew I could get everything I needed here.

Ron

 

[Mallory]

3M makes a good spray on undercoating, sould be able to pick it up at one of those chain auto parts places that specializes in chrome curb feelers. I would go to a top end auto stereo dealer for the mat. Good luck, Brian Mallory