Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) KDP=dp

[Missouri Mule]

Finally went in after mine at My Mechanics shop (works on lite to heavy duty equipment).

We did the tab fix. My dowel pin was out about 1/8" to 1/4"(forgot to take a picture).



We took out radiator, fan shroud with over-flow bottle attached and washer bottle unattached and of course everything else in the way of timing cover.

Battery connection cable can be placed on top or valve cover with out taking off cables to either battery.



Mechanic made a tab out of scrap metal. Did take photo of tab fix.



My Mechanic put seal in cover while it was off.



Did not want to go in front side so we flipped the cover over (we put the metal depth quide tool in the front side) use a large impact socket/hammer to tap seal in.



The socket needs to fit the seal's back inside diameter of metal lip ( I think we used the old seal to help start it but used socket/hammer the most).



Flipped back over checked to see if it was cock eyed (it was a little) tapped the depth quide tool with hammer( that made it even up) put the plastic seal spreader in(seal spreader comes out as you put cover on).

Silconed the cover and put it on. Put all the bolts in then hand tighten them and then torqued them.

The rest was a breeze. Well except it took a lot of elbow grease to torque the damper bolts to 92 lbs.



The job wasn't that hard but time consuming but I know it would go quicker the second time.



Oh yeah truck has 130,000, engine is at STOCK HORSE POWER.



But the main thing is the KDP =dp and won't give me any troubles !!! Oo. Freightliner is next in line!

 

[LandShark]

Why did you remove the radiator and fan shroud? The only reason I can think of to do this is that it makes it easy to take pictures.

 

[HoleshotHolset]

It's advised to remove the radiator so that you can get at the harmonic balancer bolts with an impact gun and NOT beat the crap out of the radiator... .



I've done one KDP using the tab method in this fashion... .



Matt

 

[dseabaugh]

Congratulations. I have never found the time to pursue the beast and wonder all the time when or if it may fall into my gears.

 

[Missouri Mule]

We took out radiator so when fan was ready to come it would not even come close to radiator.

Fan shroud was second to come out then the fan.



The hardest part about radiator coming out is draining and refilling after shroud is unscrewed and placed over fan, two bolts on top/back of radiator hold it in.



We wanted some elbow room also.



I thought I or mechanic mite have to get up close and friendly with cover and seal as it turned out we ventured from the instructions and service manual.



The extra working room was welcomed anyway.



We did not use the air impact gun on damper



I also replaced the oem hose clamps on all four ends of radiator hoses with screw clamps.



The original cover gasket and maybe the seal had been leaking for a long time, now no signs of oil leakage on bottom of cover or sides of case.

 

[Joe G.]

dseabaugh,



Ask Curtis (gitchesum) about that.

 

[illflem]

dseabaugh, check this out before you tempt fate any longer

http://www.flex.net/~triplem/new/dowelpin.htm Your chances of the pin falling out are better than even a $5 lottery win.

 

[Missouri Mule]

dseabaugh,

My feeling was how much money is it going to cost me if I do a preventive fix versus How much it could cost if I didn't ! :--) :



I took a week and half off to kill some paperwork decided I take care of pin at same time.

Lucky for me my mecahnic let me do most of it (saved on labor cost).

The truck was there for 2 1/2 days but we had to wait for seal to arrive. Actual work time was arox 8 to 10 hrs (hey I was on vacation) but I think if all parts and tools were there and ready to go about 6 hrs to 8 hrs.



The jig fix is faster but I prefer the tab fix.

 

[Joe G.]

The job should take three to four hours if you don't remove the radiator. Some people don't even remove the radiator fan shroud. I'm kind of clumsy and have big hands so I couldn't get away with trying to do it with the shroud still on.



The important thing is to block the KDP regardless of the method. Ask some people on these forums who have put the job off and had the KDP fail!!

 

[Missouri Mule]

Actually Joe I like your time figure better. I think if I had to do it again 4 hrs with removal/install of radiator /shroud.

My original calculation is probably off a few hours because of waitng time.



Joe's second paragraph is one reason I did it.



Pay this $$ or this$$$$$$$$... $7000. 00 (extreme cases) up to you. still !



Now I know a little more about my engine and besides I got take things apart with my tools!

 

[Jim Fulmer]

I used Joe's pain up front instructions with humor added and took me 3 1/2 hours... . Piece of cake.



Jim