Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Line lock for doing burn outs....

[silverram323]

I want to put in a line lock for doing burn outs. I would like to be able to block off the rear brakes and still have full front brakes. What do you guy suggest?

 

[silverram323]

grrrrr why cant i edit the heading?????????????????

 

[johncameron]

Whats a "Durn out" ?



J

 

[BILLVO]

grrrrr why cant i edit the heading?????????????????

Only moderators are worthy of that feet. They have fixed their own oops in the header but if we make a mistake we look dumb forever. The only way I have found to fix it is to delete the thread before someone else posts in it. Then restart a new one. Or you can use the built in spell checker option before you hit the submit button.

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

Fixed it for you. Do you have 4 wheel ABS or just rear wheel ABS?

 

[silverram323]

Fixed it for you. Do you have 4 wheel ABS or just rear wheel ABS?

thanks



4 wheel ABS. I put vise grips on the rear rubber brake line once for a burn out show and then was told not to do that. So i was looking for a set up for our trucks at fair price. $150 and under.

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

I think your going to have a hard time doing it for under $150. Here's a post on how I installed one on my truck - https://www.turbodieselregister.com...on-discussions/68886-line-loc.html#post615895 . The problem is with 4 wheel ABS you'll need two line locks for the front because they are on seperate circuits out of the ABS controller. The 4 wheel ABS (at least on 2nd gens) have 3 circuits - one for each front wheel and one for the two rear wheels. You need to put the line locks on the brake side of the ABS controller therefore you'd need two - you'd just wire them to one switch inside the cab. I have no clue if it will set codes on your ABS or not - I don't know of anyone who's tried it yet.

 

[silverram323]

how much are we talking???$$$



I didnt seem to have a problem with the vise grips or just power braking it.

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

Well, the TCI roll control that I used is $84 in kit form at Jegs and then you'd need a second solenoid with is $77. Then you'd need a couple installation kits which are $27 ea (for the lines) and then you'd need something to cut the lines and flare them. Jegs sells a flare tool for $34 plus a line cutter which you can probably get for around $10 I'd guess. Plus some wire to wire it up and shipping I'd guess your looking at around $300.

 

[CJNielson]

I've never done anything along these lines, but rather than have all that extra stuff, why not just do a valve on the line going to the rear brakes? Shut the valve, the fluid would dead head before reaching the rear brakes, only front brakes would lock.

Like I said, never even looked into something like this, but that seems like that would be the easiest solution to me.

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

Someone talked about doing that with a roll control and mounting it in reverse but I don't know if he ever actually tried it. I tried searching and was unable to find it. Problem I think you'd run into doing that is that the solenoid is designed to have the pressure on a specific side I'm pretty sure. They are designed to have the pressure applied and then the solenoid activated to hold the pressure on the other side of the valve. I'm not sure how they'd handle blocking the line and then having pressure applied to them. You'd have to contact one of the manufacturers to see what they have to say about it or just give it a try.

Unless your talking about a manual valve that you'd get out and throw - in that case you'd have to find a valve that can deal with the kind of pressures your dealing with in a hydraulic brake system and not leak. Mico makes manual locks like that but that are designed to work the same way the line locks are - here is the address for Mico: MICO, Inc. : Products/Literature . You could ask them if they have anything that would work that way.

 

[BWagnaar]

Is it really that hard to do burn outs with 4 wheel ABS? Is there a lack of power?

 

[silverram323]

Is it really that hard to do burn outs with 4 wheel ABS? Is there a lack of power?

not at all. once the turbo lights, you would never know the brakes were on.

 

[silverram323]

Someone talked about doing that with a roll control and mounting it in reverse but I don't know if he ever actually tried it. I tried searching and was unable to find it. Problem I think you'd run into doing that is that the solenoid is designed to have the pressure on a specific side I'm pretty sure. They are designed to have the pressure applied and then the solenoid activated to hold the pressure on the other side of the valve. I'm not sure how they'd handle blocking the line and then having pressure applied to them. You'd have to contact one of the manufacturers to see what they have to say about it or just give it a try.



Unless your talking about a manual valve that you'd get out and throw - in that case you'd have to find a valve that can deal with the kind of pressures your dealing with in a hydraulic brake system and not leak. Mico makes manual locks like that but that are designed to work the same way the line locks are - here is the address for Mico: MICO, Inc. : Products/Literature . You could ask them if they have anything that would work that way.

ok thanks ill check them out. what kind of pressure are we talking about?

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

I'm not sure but I just did a search on the net and one article said upwards of 2,000 psi.