Looking for Big Fuel Line Kit

[Joe Mc]

Anyone have a line on who might be selling big line kits? Please provide web address if you have it. Thanks.

 

[kelly4463]

joe mc (performance diesel warehouse) 717-557-7060 talk to doug great guy. hope you make the fall brawl Oo.

 

[HeavyHauler]

Olee Poole also sells a big line kit.



http://www.powerbypoole.com



Olee's a really good guy to deal with.

 

[master1578]

I bought mine here,



http://www.vulcanperformance.com/dieselperformance.html



However It's still in the box Just waiting for some time to get it installed.

 

[BigBadDodge]

Haisley Machine



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[Cummins Thunder]

Call Michael at Hot Rod Diesels. He has a high flow kit that will allow you to get rid of all banjo bolts and move the lift pump back to the fuel tank.



Call him at 281-924-4955 He is great to work with and will take time answer any questions you may have...

 

[Huff N Puff]

Question about these big line kits

When you guys install these big line kits,do you open up the the lines going into the tank?

 

[Cummins Thunder]

I took michael's advise and didn't fool with it (the line in the tank)... I installed the system myself in about four hours, you just cut the steel line back by the tank and attach about a foot of the included hose with two hose clamps, then attach the other end to the LP which you have moved to the frame rail, then its on to the fuel canister, next you install an included inline fuel pressure tap and then you finish up at the inj pump. pretty easy, just takes some planing and time.



The results have been great! But I am not making 638HP... In that case you would probably need to do the pick up line.



If you would like I can post some pics of my install.

Hot Rod Diesels

Hot Rod Diesels 281-924-4955, Michael



CJ

 

[Huff N Puff]

I took michael's advise and didn't fool with it (the line in the tank)... I installed the system myself in about four hours, you just cut the steel line back by the tank and attach about a foot of the included hose with two hose clamps, then attach the other end to the LP which you have moved to the frame rail, then its on to the fuel canister, next you install an included inline fuel pressure tap and then you finish up at the inj pump. pretty easy, just takes some planing and time.



The results have been great! But I am not making 638HP... In that case you would probably need to do the pick up line.



If you would like I can post some pics of my install.

Hot Rod Diesels

Hot Rod Diesels 281-924-4955, Michael



CJ

Just want to give you food for thought,if you opened up the whole fuel system from the tank to the injection pump,but left one restriction in suction side of the system,that whole system can 0NLY flow what the restriction, in this case the fuel module, will let atmopheric pressure push thru that resriction. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

 

[Cummins Thunder]

Just want to give you food for thought,if you opened up the whole fuel system from the tank to the injection pump,but left one restriction in suction side of the system,that whole system can 0NLY flow what the restriction, in this case the fuel module, will let atmopheric pressure push thru that resriction. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

I am VERY aware of this.



As I said earlier, Michaels solution will work well for what I plan on doing. I don't have ANY plans of making over 400HP so I don't feel like this is a problem. However you are making 638HP and would need this to be modified...

 

[amnewsom]

I am thinking of doing a big line kit and have read the same argument before, why open it up then not change the tank line. The trouble and time you spend on that compared to the rest of it just doesnt add up.



The whole point is to a. give the system a steady supply b. maybe move the pump c. be an easy upgrade. I will probably look into the Vulcan kit seems like the best for overall cost vs equipment.

 

[klaybus]

One awesome setup

That won't break your bank! No affiliation but one AWESOME setup! $99, can anyone even compete? Rock solid 16 PSI except when pulling our 5vr under heavy throttle... 14. 5 to 15 psi FWIW



Clay

 

[Huff N Puff]

I'm not suggesting installing a big line kit in the tank

I am thinking of doing a big line kit and have read the same argument before, why open it up then not change the tank line. The trouble and time you spend on that compared to the rest of it just doesnt add up.



The whole point is to a. give the system a steady supply b. maybe move the pump c. be an easy upgrade. I will probably look into the Vulcan kit seems like the best for overall cost vs equipment.

Since the engineers at Dodge have redesigned the old fuel module and relaced it with a P/N 05175538AA,which basicly admits that the old fuel module was a problem,causing VP44 failures. My suggestion is to rid your system of this known failure which not only is a restriction, it also is a know source of air leaks into the fuel stream.

 

[klaybus]

Since the engineers at Dodge have redesigned the old fuel module and relaced it with a P/N 05175538AA,which basicly admits that the old fuel module was a problem,causing VP44 failures. My suggestion is to rid your system of this known failure which not only is a restriction, it also is a know source of air leaks into the fuel stream.

it also is a know source of air leaks into the fuel stream



That may very well be true but the Vulcan kit sure helps pressures & supply as I see it since the pressures under light & heavy loads (acceleration loaded) vary only by a pound or two..... Just my humble opinion... ...



Clay

 

[nps]

Since the engineers at Dodge have redesigned the old fuel module and relaced it with a P/N 05175538AA,which basicly admits that the old fuel module was a problem,causing VP44 failures.

They redesigned the module for the 3rd gen CP then backfitted it into the 2nd gen as a LP replacement. If it is so good, then why won't it put out fuel pressure? Would you run one?



I agree the fuel module is a restriction. But pointing to the POS new module for proof of the old module's limitations is a stretch.

 

[amnewsom]

I agree with NPS, proof is out there the retrofit does very little good for a 2nd gen truck. I'll just move mine and see how that helps. Yesterday A/c on, 3/4 into it (no way WOT), pressure was at 10 psi as I hit 55-60 in 4th merging on to the highway. Average 13. 5 cruise, I just want a more reliable setup to keep the 2nd VP44 happy.

 

[Huff N Puff]

Its not a stretch at all.

They redesigned the module for the 3rd gen CP then backfitted it into the 2nd gen as a LP replacement. If it is so good, then why won't it put out fuel pressure? Would you run one?



I agree the fuel module is a restriction. But pointing to the POS new module for proof of the old module's limitations is a stretch.

Mopar is installing the updated fuel pump module on every warranty VP44 install. Its a an expensive repair in addition to the VP44. I dont think they'd do that expensive repair for free on alot of trucks unless they really thought it was a real problem,and worth the trouble.

 

[JApol]

With me having an 05, do I need to worry about the VP44 crapping out in a few years?

 

[nps]

Mopar is installing the updated fuel pump module on every warranty VP44 install. Its a an expensive repair in addition to the VP44. I dont think they'd do that expensive repair for free on alot of trucks unless they really thought it was a real problem,and worth the trouble.

I don't know why they are doing the fuel pump module at all given most 2nd gen trucks are within 12-18 months of warranty expiration based on the 5 year Cummins warranty. But the fact remains that the new pump doesn't produce PSI and the flow volume is barely within Cummins flow spec for the old Carter LP.

 

[nps]

With me having an 05, do I need to worry about the VP44 crapping out in a few years?

3rd gen HPCR trucks don't have a VP44. You are OK.