Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) low sulfer fuel

[PurdellMGP]

W/ the new fuel coming out what do us 2nd gen owners need to do to protect our engines?



I work at a John Deere Dealership and JD told our service dept to run there approved additive w/ each tank of diesel to protect the injector pump.



Just curious to what you are all doing/or planning on doing.

 

[Missouri Mule]

I've read that the chemical that repalces the sulfur likes to clean out things (lines/tanks) so keep an extra fuel filter on hand until its been around for a while.

 

[RConner]

Thats all there pumpin in my area. I was unaware it could damage anything.

 

[mhenon]

ULSD will not have the lubricating qualities of regular D#2. This will be address by someong in the supply chain but my guess is they'll add the minimum amount of lubricant to meet spec's.

I'm using Power Service plus 2 stroke injector oil (50/50) just to make sure the VP gets the lubrication it needs. It can't hurt anything.

We've been getting ULSD here for some time now. Stations that want to sell ULSD most run 2 or 3 tank loads just to clean out the old LSD (low sulphur diesel). I've noticed the fuel lately is super clear. . almost like water.

It's also supposed to have a solvent like effect and clean out your tank and lines. Keeping a spare filter under the seat might be a good idea.

Mike

 

[DMannon]

You can also run a biodiesel mix; that takes care of the lubricity... . I run B20 in mine.



Check out the Alternative Fuels Forum here.

 

[RConner]

I just did my first full fill up today. There is a warning label that states do not use in 2007 or newer vehicles or engine damage or failure will occur. Whats up with that?

Anyway I am driving and the engine is louder. It used to purr now you can hear the valves and the rockers. I stopped at advanced auto and bought a lubricant.



Good news is that within 5 miles of my house we have a new bio-diesel plant that sells, regular diesel, B-20, B-50 and full bio. The B-20 is what I think I am going to run and I think it was around $2. 90 a gallon.

 

[EBung]

That is low sulfer not ultra low sulfer. Low is 500ppm versus 5ppm of ultra. I also filled up last night with my first tank and power is still there. I run BG DFCplus anyway so we'll see.

 

[mhenon]

I run biodiesel any chance I can. We now have a chain of local stations offering B10

(Hey Idaho... welcome to the 21st century) which is more than enough to address the lubricity issue.

The warning sign on diesel pumps is to let folks know it's not ULSD..... yet. When they meet spec on the fuel they can pull the sign. Apparently the 2007 engines can't take the sulphur.

Mike

 

[obert]

... . JD told our service dept to run there approved additive w/ each tank of diesel.....

... so Lucas or Power Service will ruin a JD pump? Does the parts guy get a bonus for every case of that stuff sold? :-laf :-laf



Bobcat Company sent a sevice bullitin describing the fuel, production/retail deadlines, etc. It was noted that older engines, both on and off highway, "should" be able to use the new fuel with no change of habbits: no customer-added additives, loss/ gain of power, and most importantly no risk of damage to the fuel system. We do sell a "fuel coditioner", though.



Im still a little nervous about it myself.

 

[Missouri Mule]

I ran into one Shell station in Atlanta selling the ultra low sulfur fuel (thought it said 15ppm) while on vacation the rest of my fill ups were the old diesel fuel (500ppm) .

Did not notice any power loss as I went through the mountains but I wasn't carrying or pulling anything.

 

[mhenon]

yeah... I think there's a tiny bit less energy than D#2 but you'll never notice it.

Mike