Maintenance/Repair manual

[TravisMitchell]

I have been trying to find a maintenance/repair manual for my 2012 3500. The closest I have found is at ALLDATAdiy.com and the latest they show is for the 2011. Is there enough differance between the 2011 and the 2012's? Has anyone tried this manual?

 

[Oil Stain]

Good luck finding any manuals. from what I'm told it's all on computers. Unless your the dealer or a professional mechanic, it's a pricey subscription. I looked at Alldata too, not sure what if they have other than very basic maintenance. No wiring diagrams etc. Just my . 02

 

[Bob4x4]

With out special tools and training there isn't that much you would need manual for a diy

 

[TravisMitchell]

I mostly am wanting it to know more about my truck. I think I will try AllData. Doesn't cost all that much and will probably have all a dummy like me needs. Thanks for your replies.

 

[TJJEEPER]

I did a search and as far as I could find, and confirmed by others, is the on line that Dodge/Ram provides. The three day subscription isn't too bad if you were working on a specific issue. Any of the others are pricey.

My thread: https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?239716-Service-Manual

 

[RJTaylor]

I just put in an order for a 2012 15/25/3500 service manual on CD from the MOPAR TechAuthority website, part num# 81-370-12075-CD... they are apparently becoming obtainable for the newer trucks...

 

[Bob V]

I just put in an order for a 2012 15/25/3500 service manual on CD from the MOPAR TechAuthority website, part num# 81-370-12075-CD... they are apparently becoming obtainable for the newer trucks...

I just saw that they where availble also. Please let us know what its like when you get it

 

[Oil Stain]

Here's the description, no wiring diagrams though.

This comprehensive service information provides the resource that the professional technician needs to diagnose/troubleshoot, maintain, service, and repair a Chrysler Group vehicle. A complete working knowledge of the vehicle, system and/or components is written in straightforward language with illustrations, diagrams and charts.

The information is specific to a vehicle(s) and includes:

Repair procedures that highlight step-by-step removal and installation instructions for vehicle components and include line art drawings to aid in component service
Diagnostic procedures to aid in the diagnosis of electrical and mechanical systems, DTCs, and symptom-based concerns
IT DOES NOT CONTAIN THE TRADITIONAL WIRING DIAGRAM INFORMATION It does contain the wiring information relavent to a diagnostic trouble code (DTC) in the diagnostic procedure for the specific DTC.

 

[RJTaylor]

Will do... they are asking a LOT of money for just a CD! But I don't trust the Chiltons, and I plan on keeping this truck for a LONG time... really like it.

 

[RJTaylor]

I received my repair CD from the Tech Authority, it shipped (even to here in AK) quickly. Although I still prefer the older paper type with traditional layout, this newer PDF CD manual seems it will do the trick. PDF Pages are broken down into specific process to be performed, similar to what I have seen with other manuals recently. I believe what is indicated is correct, I have yet to find a general vehical wiring diagram, but it does have specific sensors wiring info to look at. All in all a good purchase, although I wouldn't consider it inexpensive for what you get (a CD).

 

[Bob V]

Thanks for the update. yes, a little exspencive for what you get, but there are no other options. I will put this on my to buy list

 

[Oil Stain]

+2 Thanks for update too! Let us know if you find anything worth noting.

I now see Geno's Garage is selling the Haynes manual now. Anyone get one yet?

 

[Wygate]

I have ordered a PAPER owners manual from a local dealership, it has been months now but the parts guy keeps calling there folks and they are assured it dose exist and it will ship.
The parts guy is someone I trust, one of the only employees that has been there for the 3 years I have been around. He has gone the extra mile for me when the rest would not.
Time will tell I guess
Will post if it ever comes

 

[RJTaylor]

No problem guys! Yeah I didn't have much time to critique when I got it, I just made a copy of it to use and put the original away for safe keeping. I originally called my local dealer to order a paper one if available, and the CD if not... hoping that it would save me the shipping if I ordered it from them. Anyway, they told me that only the digital CD copy was available and that the owner was to order it from the Tech Authority if they desired a manual. All I know...

 

[kkelley]

I'm just throwing this out there, but I have seen a shift away from typical 12v on/off wiring in newer cars. I know for a fact that just trying to get an aftermarket keyless entry into my pickup required taking it to a local sound/security shop. The door locks were not even 12v and required relays and resistors to trick the pickup's computer.
I'm betting that since everything now runs on a CAN-BUS system that can control multiple systems on one wire they don't want people just tapping into a wire because they think it runs a taillamp.

Side story: While working at a BMW service center, I had a gal come in with three "unrelated" issues that all seamed to pop up at the same time. Her parking sensors would go off every time she put the car in reverse, the windows wouldn't do the 1/4" drop to open the doors (framless windows on a coupe that fit into a chanel on the roof), and radio reception would almost dissapear. This would come and go at random. After looking at the car three different times (all of which the car worked fine as soon as we could get it in to look at it, with no stored trouble codes), we finally got to look at it while it was acting up. The tech was able to see that there was a low voltage at one wire of the parking sensors. An online conversation with one of BMW's help center folks in Germany got us a wiring diagram for each circuit that was acting up. None showed they were related, however the tech being pretty observent, noticed that one of the CAN-BUS comm wires was shared among all three systems. He located the wire and started tracing pins. It led him to a streach of wire behind the dash, pulled the dash and found the one wire common to all three that talked to the main ECU was pinched between the dash structure and a reinforcing beam. It had been randomly shorting to ground, and something with this system thought that voltage drop on this line was a normal operating condition, so all three "brains" acted as if it was normal.

So in short, with new wiring systems, just knowing what wire goes where might cause more headache if you try to cut/add anything.

 

[Oil Stain]

Great point as to where the industry has gone. The days of the DIY'er is almost gone when it comes to anything electrical. Even rotating your own tires with a TPMS setup can cause issues.

 

[Bob4x4]

It's not just diyers that have a hard time I have a truck right now that a fleet shop has tried fixing(they have a factory scanner). For some reason they felt the need to lie about how it quit running after they were done screwing it up.