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Making Biodiesel on "Trucks"

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Biodiesel - can we use it?

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JamesHanna said:
Not that I'd be able to do that but it seems if someone had the time to round up the cooking oil and make the batches, there would probably be some people in their area who'd pay at least the same as the local pump prices. Could be a money-making proposition.



I live in Las Vegas if anyone wants to do that here.

They already are - Clark County brews their own bio for bus fuel. One of the few places in the country that already has an established fryer oil collection program - translated - NO FREE OIL.



Look at the dumpster-looking oil containers behind restaurants with a big square lid. This is where the oil is dumped/collected. My guess is they would look at you as stealing if you try to 'collect' some after hours and get caught.



My prediction is that if recycled bio (as opposed to virgin bio) commercially catches on, then the 'free' supply of oil will disappear across the country and the investment into the processing equipment would go for waste. No telling how long it will take, if ever.
 
How about if every time your pulled in to eat a meal you could pull around back (instead of the *costanza* spot up front) and drop a hose out of your truck into their grease pit and completely fill your tank? This is possible. It's being done locally. (Asheville NC). Once you buy the patent kit that mounts to your truck (in your toolbox if you like) it's as simple as that. You start and finish with regular diesel, but after the guages (installed with the kit) indicate, you flip a switch and --viola-- your running on waste vegtable oil. AKA, WVO. I was all set to pay 1500. 00 for a complete bio-diesel kit from europe-via a hot water tank, then came accross this locally. The idea of having to haul 20-80 gallons (I have 2 diesels running weekly about 500 miles) of waste vegtable oil to the house once or twice a week sorta turned me off, I have enough responsibility. So the thought of dropping a hose while I eat lunch really caught my attention.

at any rate, I got problems with the injection pump I think, so we're gonna straighten that out first, also I got tennants around so I need a more private space.

Did you know that the process is extremely similar to what the "old folks" used to do to make lye soap? In the appalachians anyway. That's the by product. (what you remove)

Anyway I'm going down the highway when This Turbo D passes me with the letters in the window saying it runs on WVO. I checked into it and with electronic guages it's around 4 grand.

I'm not a sales man but I was convinced that this was the way to go.

How long before they start taxing the homemade biodiesel just like they did homemade alcohol? NOT LONG.

People are already getting permits to make their own home brewed alcohol-a substitute for methenol because this is the most expensive recurring cost. This is a legalized pemit to do what the old timers where thrown in jail for (as long as you mix it with WVO or plain old oil) don't drink it!!! or don't get caught anyway.

there are plenty of website for you you guys who are interested.

My advice is to do alll the research you can BEFORE attempting to make BIOdiesel. there are some serious complications with mixture levels. I get about 30 emails a day from people asking question about why their project turned to goop when they checked it the next morning. Then again Europe is technologically advance farther than us and they are selling it at the regular service stations.

To my best knowledge, Biodiesel burns 75% cleaner than regular Diesel. WVO also Burns 75% cleaner but also in creases horse power by 10% and fuel mileage by 10%.



As with with any major purchase (kits etc... ) Do your own due dilligence. This is mine and it's only cost is the time you spent reading it.



My advice for anyboby interested is to do the following:



Goto www.donkeydo.com this is a search engine for msn, yahoo and google all at the same time.



Type in a search for Biodiesel, yellowdiesel or veggievan.



That's it. I did my home work and made my decisions, and from my searches this is the absolute best place to start.



My apologies for being so long winded-But when you have info you like to share it. If anybody is interested in this pateneted WVO system (you can carry up to 70 gallons of fuels) then email me me at -- email address removed -- and i will put you in touch with the guys i talked to.



I HAVE NO AFFILIATION OR COMPENSATION FOR ANY OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS.



C-YA
 
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A few things.



For one, the fuelmeister is a POS do not buy one simply for it's convenience. For $2k, you can have several companies come out to your shop or house, assemble an appleseed processor for you, and make your first batch with you. This is a thousand dollars cheaper and an infinitely better system. There are many reasons this setup is better, but one really important one is that the Fuelmeister does not have a heater included! I notice they offer it as an accessory, but this just drives the price further up for a crappy system. The reaction and yield are far better when the oil is heated to a certain temp, as well as the heat necessary (130F) to rid the fuel of any water after a wash. If any of you had brewed your own biodiesel and seen someone wash a batch of fuel, you would wash yours. After about three washes the water comes out clean/clear, and you know you're done.



Whatever stacey david did get out of that fuelmeister, I sure as heck wouldn't put it in my truck. Did you guys notice that he didn't even filter it before putting it in the truck?



For the record, plug and play processors have been around for years. The fuelmeister as well as the biodieselgear.com (nicer than FM) processors have both gone UP DRASTICALLY in price since this whole thing has 'caught on'. The identically equipped processors at biodieselgear.com were 50% cheaper just 2-3 years ago.



Biodiesel once finished is still classified in the same category as cooking oil - not explosive or toxic - so it's legal/safe to have it in your garage. I investigated that, at least within the state of FL, becauase I used to have 2-3 fifty-five gal drums of b100 in my garage most of the time.



I would highly recommend against any sort of SVO kit like Rstacy is talking about, particularly in 3rd gen trucks. HPCR and SVO don't mix well. Even once the SVO is heated to the proper viscosity, it doesn't burn cleanly. The conversion to biodiesel removes a lot of the nonsense that still exists in SVO. Increase in horsepower by 10%? :rolleyes: :-laf
 
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