Michelin LTX A/T2 or Toyo Open Country AT

[ILIANBG]

Hello to all!

I am trying to decide which of the two tires to pick for my next set.

A year ago I had my sight set at the Toyo (I like'em a lot), but then Michelin came out with the A/T2. They will be E-rated, 265/75-16. I priced both, the Toyo is a little cheaper.

I would like to see what you guys, who own those, have to say.

What mileage do you get out of those, with regular maintenance? That's an important factor for me.

Is there another good tire to consider. I've only read good reviews in general about the above mentioned two, but I can consider another. It's for a truck, primarily used for work, so it has to be a good, even wearing tire.

My last two sets have been the Michelin LTX M/S, and they have been good tires, but bad in wet conditions.

Thanks.

Ilian

 

[AH64ID]

If you want long life go Michelin. . If you want traction and a better ride go Toyo.

 

[BigPapa]

I have the Toyo Open Country's in a 285/70-17 on my truck. I like the tires, decent ride and decent traction, but I'm only going to get @ 40K miles out of them. I've rotated them 3 times, thats roughly every 7500 miles. 65 psi. I run empty, mainly commuting, 50/50 interstate and 2-lane. No burn-outs or abuse. They are wearing evenly, maybe a little more in the middle than the edges. I would think they would have lasted much longer.



Until them I've run the LTX M/S's and then a set of the BFG Rugged Trails that were on the 3rd Gen rims I got. I've seen as much as 90K out of the Michelins and the BFG's got a total of 60K before I got the Toyo's. The Michelins were great tires with great traction, even in snow and rain, until they get about 50% gone, then they're not good for anything but dry roads.



I really need something with a decent offroad traction with a 2WD and open rear diff. I tried the Michelin LTX A/T's on the rear. I got about 45K out of them. I just wish someone would come out with a tire like the Open Country made with the high mileage compound.



Scott

 

[pullya]

I have the Michelin AT2's. I have about 3k on them and so far so good. They do excellent on wet pavement and there is no road noise. I got them because most of my driving is highway and I wanted something that would give me good mileage. They are not as agressive as the Revo's I took off but they do just as good as the Revo's on wet pavement. I also like the fact that they are load range "E". They seem to be a little more expensive than some other tires but well worth it IMO. The only problem so far is they seem to be a rock magnet. Small gravel stays in the tread and gets thrown out on the rockers of your truck.

Jay

 

[cArNiVaLwOrKeR]

Good job Scott...



I have the AT2's and no sign of wear in 15K...

Awesome and quiet...



JoeLee...

 

[The patriot]

I have the Toyo Open Country's in a 285/70-17 on my truck. I like the tires, decent ride and decent traction, but I'm only going to get @ 40K miles out of them. I've rotated them 3 times, thats roughly every 7500 miles. 65 psi. I run empty, mainly commuting, 50/50 interstate and 2-lane. No burn-outs or abuse. They are wearing evenly, maybe a little more in the middle than the edges. I would think they would have lasted much longer.



Until them I've run the LTX M/S's and then a set of the BFG Rugged Trails that were on the 3rd Gen rims I got. I've seen as much as 90K out of the Michelins and the BFG's got a total of 60K before I got the Toyo's. The Michelins were great tires with great traction, even in snow and rain, until they get about 50% gone, then they're not good for anything but dry roads.



I really need something with a decent offroad traction with a 2WD and open rear diff. I tried the Michelin LTX A/T's on the rear. I got about 45K out of them. I just wish someone would come out with a tire like the Open Country made with the high mileage compound.



Scott

Are you trying to run up your post count?:-laf



I dont have the A/T2's but the regular michelin MS's have been good to me.

I get about 60-70K out of them. No burnouts or anything, just the roads here in NJ suck.

 

[BigPapa]

Are you trying to run up your post count?:-laf

I couldn't get it to complete! It kept crashing on me. Got back on an hour later and it posted 5 times!



Sorry!



Scott

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I have NOT been at all impressed with either the traction OR the wear with my Toyo M55's - besides that, they have quite a bit of whine on the freeway - and I only have them on the rear of my truck. Should be plenty of traction back there - I keep a full 50 gallon fuel/tool box, plus a 100 lb. or better 5th wheel hitch setup back there pretty much full time. I pulled off the 2 most worn of the Michelins the truck came with at about 45K miles - and now, at 60K miles, they look to be about half worn out, and I feel pretty sure the 2 OEM Michelins still on the front will last as long as the Toyos will...



I had thought that maybe it was just the M55's - but have several local friends running the open country Toyos - and they claim they are also not the greatest on wear. I bought them for the Winter snows here, and for their availability in the 285 size, which is perfect with my 3. 56 differential and 6-speed manual transmission for RV towing - but would go back to Michelins in a heartbeat, if I could get an "E" rated tire in a 285 size...

 

[The patriot]

I couldn't get it to complete! It kept crashing on me. Got back on an hour later and it posted 5 times!



Sorry!



Scott

Just bustin your chops. :-laf

 

[cArNiVaLwOrKeR]

me 3...



JoeLee

 

[ILIANBG]

Picked the Michelin LTX A/T2. Had those installed today at a local tire shop. I can't believe how much nicer it rides with these tires.

 

[Regcabguy]

Costco currently has a sale going on for Michelins @ $60. 00 off on a set of four. They will only mount the stock size on the vehicle. Any other size requires you to bring the wheels in. This absolves them of any liability. This policy was put in place after losing a lawsuit over installing non-stock tires on a vehicle.

 

[AH64ID]

Costco currently has a sale going on for Michelins @ $60. 00 off on a set of four. They will only mount the stock size on the vehicle. Any other size requires you to bring the wheels in. This absolves them of any liability. This policy was put in place after losing a lawsuit over installing non-stock tires on a vehicle.

This also applies to BFG tires, and I think they upped it to $70 per set this time. .



As the oversize they will do it at some stores and not at others.

 

[ILIANBG]

Yes, I saw the $70 off at Costco, but still was quite more expensive than the tire shop I used. I'll support the independent shop anytime I have a chance to, instead of the big chain.

 

[cArNiVaLwOrKeR]

Costco and other major places offer road hazard, nitro, free rotation, balancing installation are all included in price What warr. do you have from a Local tire shop if youre not in the area and something major happens to a Tire?



JoeLee

 

[AH64ID]

Costco and other major places offer road hazard, nitro, free rotation, balancing installation are all included in price What warr. do you have from a Local tire shop if youre not in the area and something major happens to a Tire?



JoeLee

I agree. . with as much as I travel thats cheap insurance. . and around here Costco is cheaper too...

 

[Regcabguy]

Costco and other major places offer road hazard, nitro, free rotation, balancing installation are all included in price What warr. do you have from a Local tire shop if youre not in the area and something major happens to a Tire?



JoeLee

The only downside to Costco is that if they have to order your tire, in the event of a failure it takes forever. They order out of their warehouse the tire guy told me. Local shops have a local distributor usually who can get them a replacement in hrs. Discount sometimes has to get tires out of AZ if you buy from them. Costco can take seven days. In an emergency,you can buy anywhere and Costco will reimburse you for their selling price,tire only. I like Costco in that they pay their installers a decent wage and they stick around.

 

[ILIANBG]

All of that I have too-warranty, free rotations and balance every 5000 miles, free flat tire repair, and the 40 min. installation without waiting for hours. And the shop has been there for 40 yrs, and the owner has 2 more in the area A friend of mine waited for 3 hours at Costco. I do not tell you guys not to go to your Costco, I am just happy to get the product cheaper, faster, closer to me and help a guy stay in business in these hard times. That's it.

 

[SBeretz]

I have the Toyo OC AT's on my truck and will not be buying them again. They were good tires with decent traction, but will not make it past 40K. They are already at the wear bars. Other than wearing out fast, they wore really fast the first 20K, and held up decent the last 20K. But after the first 20K they loose alot of siping and their ability to grip wet surfaces. I am thinking about the Michelin AT2 or Hankook RF10. I like the Toyo, but they wear pretty quickly. Scotty

 

[B.G. Smith]

Any time you have a choice of tires and Michelin is one of the choices, pick Michelin. bg