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I have the Toyo OC AT's on my truck and will not be buying them again. They were good tires with decent traction, but will not make it past 40K. They are already at the wear bars. Other than wearing out fast, they wore really fast the first 20K, and held up decent the last 20K. But after the first 20K they loose alot of siping and their ability to grip wet surfaces. I am thinking about the Michelin AT2 or Hankook RF10. I like the Toyo, but they wear pretty quickly. Scotty

Scotty, I am in the exact opposite situation as you. I have the AT2's which have been an excellent tire--balance easily, handle extremely well in all conditions (dry, wet AND snow), quiet-- BUT I have gotten only 30k miles out of mine and will be lucky to see another 5k for a toal of maybe 35k miles. I will admit that I didn't rotate except evry 9k miles AND I drive 1 mile of rocked driveway everyday, as well as mostly poorly maintained county roads. Still, I was hoping for AT LEAST 40k on these MIchelins. By the way, I have ALWAYS run some type of michelins on my various trucks through the years and this is the BEST mileage I have gotten out of a set, BUT I am leaning towards the Toyo MT's to see what they could do for me. Either way, I don't think one could go wrong with EITHER tire, and furthermore I think that our opposite experiences almost proves that (though of course driving style and loads probably have more to do with it). Good Luck with your AT2'S and wish me luck with my Toyos when I get em. :-laf:-laf
 
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SF, don't ever go 9000. 00 miles on any Toyo before rotating. I tired to wait 7500 to rotate the OC AT's and they get feathered up and pretty rough looking fairly quickly after 5K. I did have an alignment and a balance done on the tires half way through, and that help with the little vibes I was getting. Right now, the tires ride and drive like they are new, but there just isn't enough tread to be safe. I think if you get 35K out of Michelin's, you will be lucky to 30K max out of the Toyo. But then again, hard telling. Good luck to you. I wish you lots of luck. By the time I figure out what tire is best, I will be ready to trade the truck. Scotty
 
SF, don't ever go 9000. 00 miles on any Toyo before rotating. I tired to wait 7500 to rotate the OC AT's and they get feathered up and pretty rough looking fairly quickly after 5K. I did have an alignment and a balance done on the tires half way through, and that help with the little vibes I was getting. Right now, the tires ride and drive like they are new, but there just isn't enough tread to be safe. I think if you get 35K out of Michelin's, you will be lucky to 30K max out of the Toyo. But then again, hard telling. Good luck to you. I wish you lots of luck. By the time I figure out what tire is best, I will be ready to trade the truck. Scotty

Scotty, the AT2 did wear very nice and evenly, no feathering last time I checked. I am going to post pics of the tire wear this evening for another TDR member on this thread--https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/product-accessories-forum-no-engine-transmission-discussions/189691-michelin-ltx-at2-3.html#post2053106
 
I spend some time with the truck in snow, and light muck, but no where near where it needs a heavily lugged tire. I have quads, and a Jeep for that kind of road. The truck did really well with the stock BFG Rugged Trails on it, so if the AT2's are any better, I will be happy. Scotty
 
Well, I just went ahead and ordered the Michelin AT2's in 265/70R17's for 207. 00 a piece. They price matched any reputable internet dealer I could find. I ended up going with Tire Racks price, so of the other sites were not recognized by them, but tire rack and discount tire were. I don't have to pay shipping or taxes, so that is kind of nice. I do have to find someone other than the PX to install them, since they don't have a lift big enough for my truck, but that is easy enough. There is a local dealer that wanted 875. 00 for them, but I try to keep it with the PX as much as possible, especially if they will price match.

I am thinking these tires better do well, if they don't get better mileage than what the Toyo's got, I will stick with cheap tires next time. If the Michelins are good, and last longer and do what I need them too, I would like to stick with them. They get such great reviews by everybody, it is hard to imagine I would have a bad experience with them. I am pretty easy on the truck and don't do too much off road stuff, that is too much for the truck. Scotty
 
My experience with 10PR Michelin's is that unless you spend 100% of your miles on dry pavement they are a worthless tire. . and if you ever see dirt/mud/snow/ice you will regret the purchase... Now my 4PR Michelin's on my wife 4runner are like a 100% different tire (tread pattern is the same)... so the compound must be different because they were the worst tire I have ever owned on my CTD.
 
Well, I guess I will find out. My Dad swears by Michelins on his trucks and equipment and pays the extra for them. I have always been a little hard headed on this, and tryed to get by with cheaper tires, he always said you don't really pay less if the tires don't last as long. I realize they are not super AT's, but they have got to be decent for rain, snow and light mud logging roads. If they aren't well, I will find something that works better next time. I will let you all know when I get them on and how they do. Scotty
 
Well, I guess I will find out. My Dad swears by Michelins on his trucks and equipment and pays the extra for them. I have always been a little hard headed on this, and tryed to get by with cheaper tires, he always said you don't really pay less if the tires don't last as long. I realize they are not super AT's, but they have got to be decent for rain, snow and light mud logging roads. If they aren't well, I will find something that works better next time. I will let you all know when I get them on and how they do. Scotty



If they are better than the A/S then you may get away with them. . if they are similar to the A/S then you may be sorry. .



The A/S is such a horrible tire off the dry pavement I sold them before I would even take my truck off the pavement. . the once or twice I did it was scary how hard they were (which is why they last 50K+ miles on a diesel pickup)...
 
If they are better than the A/S then you may get away with them. . if they are similar to the A/S then you may be sorry. .



The A/S is such a horrible tire off the dry pavement I sold them before I would even take my truck off the pavement. . the once or twice I did it was scary how hard they were (which is why they last 50K+ miles on a diesel pickup)...



The AT2 are definitely a different story when operating on wet pavement and even snow... everyone pretty much agrees that they are a superb handling tire in ALL conditions, (except off road of course. ) which is probably why they don't least quite as long. :-laf
 
The AT2 are definitely a different story when operating on wet pavement and even snow... everyone pretty much agrees that they are a superb handling tire in ALL conditions, (except off road of course. ) which is probably why they don't least quite as long. :-laf



Well thats good... but still not 285/70/17/E or a mileage warranty... #@$%!
 
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