Moog tie rod end part #?

[tmacc]

Well, the second DC tie rod end at the pittman arm has gone bad. The shop that does some of our work can't fine the part number for '01 Rams. Has anyone replaced their's recently and have the part number handy?. A suitable alternate mgr. suggestion would be entertained. TIA

Tom

 

[Rob Thomas]

tmacc,



I've tried to locate that part, and all the parts stores told me the same thing... ... ... ... . nobody makes them yet.



Sorry, but I need one too!



Later, Rob

 

[tmacc]

Rob,

Has DC changed the part # since the '99 trucks? I'll try to check this out Monday.

Tom

 

[Rob Thomas]

tmacc,



I don't think they changed it since '98. 5,but the '98. 5 IS differant. Thats the latest listing I could find.



Later,Rob

 

[LSMITH]

Guys, I have been through 3 of these ends, and I will not put another in. I am going to put the lukes link in it and be done with it for a while. Even if I have to tighten it once in a while that is better than pulling it down every 30K miles. I would look for the permanant fix rather than a marginally better fix if it were me. Hope this helps.

 

[tmacc]

Called the stealer this morning and they claim that the '99 end is different from '01. I didn't think to ask at the time if the '99 had a zerk and if that was the difference. Wouldn't buy from them anyway, but it would have been nice to cross reference.

LSMITH, Let us know how the Luke's Link works out. I may go that way myself. Although, I read on here somewhere that the LL on the track bar didn't last any longer than the DC's or that it had to be adjusted fairly often.

Tom

 

[Rob Thomas]

tmacc,



If I do end up buying another one from DC,I'll put my own zerk in it, then hopefully it'll last a little longer.



Later,Rob

 

[JerryWallace]

Howdy all

Just out of coincidence I talked to Federal Mogul (MOOG) about their front end steering components for the late model 4x4's. Their track bar hasn't changed in several years. It is available with a lifetime warranty. As for tie rod ends and pittman ends, they are not available yet. They said they should have the parts and part numbers available in 2-3 months. So until then I don't think there's a whole lot out there to choose from.

Jerry

 

[LSMITH]

I guess I should have been more clear. The second and third pitman arm joints I had did come with the zerk in them. Greased the first replacement every 3K miles with a super moly chassis grease and it was shot after 20K miles. The third is nearly shot again now after being greased with a super synthetic chassis grease, it has about 35K miles on it.



Greaseable joints make very little if any difference in the longevity of the joints. The sealed joints have all had grease in them when they failed on my truck. Bottom line is this, the steering on our trucks is not designed well. It is weak, and undersized. Either put parts on that can be adjusted to take up the wear, or re-do it with bigger and stronger parts if you can. I would prefer the bigger and stronger method, but I have not been able to find the parts that would be needed. The front end needs a re-design to hold up for longer than a typical warranty period.



All of the above applies to the trackbar, tie rod ends and ball joints as well in my experience. The steering box is worse yet, but the subject of another thread.

 

[tmacc]

RAMTHIS1,

I installed a zerk on the second end and like LSMITH says it did nothing for longevity. These things are a POC. No doubt about it. I will not buy a DC part if I can help it. I guess that leaves Luke's Link as the only alternitive.



NXS,

My mechanic's wife says that she was told that Moog was going out of business. Just out of curiousity, when did you talk to them?

 

[JerryWallace]

I talked to moog the day before yesterday (10th)



jerry

 

[The patriot]

Has anyone tried NAPA, or is their stuff made by Moog?

Eric

 

[Rob Thomas]

Guys,



I understand that the parts are undersized, and that figures, that greasing it won't make it last any longer. I have a freind at a local truck parts store, they sell all kinds of front end and steering parts. I'll see if we can come up with somthing that is larger, I can take the measurments off mine and see if we can match it to somthing better. I've done this before with u-joints and other parts that su@k.



I'll let you know if I come up with anything.



Later, Rob

 

[tmacc]

Thanks Rob, that would be helpful.



Thanks, Jerry, I'll relay that info.



Patriot, I'm going to check w/ NAPA tomorrow myself just for grins.

 

[Ramafid]

We have a lot of talented people on this site that have made lots of great parts. How about someone coming up with a new HD front setup. It seems that everything could be replaced. ie ( ball joints, tie rods, track bar, steering box, etc. ) I think this would be a great addition to our trucks.



Anthony

 

[ABrameloah]

MOOG GOING OUT OF BUINESS

Hey boys I work for Federal Mogul and I am hear to tell you that Moog is not going out of buiness!!!!! as far as tie rod,s we do have some new part numbers for the 1 ton and 3/4 ton 2 and 4 wd 2001 and up but no stock as of this time.

 

[Texas Diesel]

Excellent news!