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Did anyone else see the special that was on last night about the moon landings? I am on a road trip and only got part of it when I got to a motel.
Some pretty convincing evidence that the whole thing was a hoax.
a) Shadows cast in different directions as if from stage lights
b) The same hills shown over and over with different equipment at different locations.
c) No crater from the rocket engine when they landed on the surface.
d) No stars in the background in any of the camera shots.
e) The terrain matches that around area 51

Lots of other stuff was there. Anyone see it and have some comments?


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[This message has been edited by paccool (edited 03-22-2001). ]
 
I caught part of it, that story has been going around for 25 years, some of the evidence is pretty convincing, I personally feel that we did go to the moon. You can be sure that the Russians were tracking the Apollo spacecraft and would have let the world know if it didn't go where it was supposed to.
 
I did watch that too for a while. I don't know waht to belive now.

The American flag was waving too. The moon has no wind. ?
 
Come on, fellas, do you know how many people would have to keep their mouths shut for 25 years for this to be a hoax? Yes, I know it's the government but human nature does not permit a secret such as this to be kept absolutely quiet for that long.
 
I too saw the video on fox and I beleive I could go with the hoax theory. After all who would ever believe that the government would try to pull one over on the rest of the world
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Sure were a lot of the people in the group that died from "accidental" deaths.

I always believed we went there also but am not so sure after seeing the special. I wouldn't put anything past our govenment.

Stan
 
Anybody remember the movie "Capricorn One" ?
The whole theme/plot revolved around that same issue...

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Have you ever wondered why we never went back? Also, why haven't they trained one of our powerfull telescopes ( maybe the Hubble )on the landing site where the lander is along with the moon buggy is supposed to be? That would put this argument to rest permanently!!!
 
I have seen supposed pictures of the tracks left by the lunar "go cart" in an article in Popular Science demonstrating how powerful the telescope on Mauna Loa in Hawaii is.
 
'accidental deaths'? I didn't know bill & hillary were involved with the moon race. I guess al gore must have invented liquid fuel rockets... .
 
We have really,really been there because I got to touch the peice of moon rock that is on display at Kennedy space center in Titusville Fla. December 1999. Also heard the space bus return from outer space while standing on the banks of the beautiful Atlantic ocean. Coco beach Fla,funny thing there were only a hand full of red blooded americans in town that week!
Tim

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I don't know Radixr, The government has done a pretty good job keeping the REAL facts about the JFK assasination supressed for a long time. Maybe they just kill anyone who doesn't follow the "program".
-Paul R. Haller-
 
You should always agree with everything that the government says. If not,your blood pressure could drop down to" O over O" for an extended period of time.
I still vote but I wonder what for sometimes.
 
They claimed at the end of the the program that the nippers... . I mean Japs are launching a space probe that will orbit the moon and have the capability of filming the equipment we left behind. Thats scheduled to happen in two years. Waiting patiently.....
 
No stars in the background? In all the shots taken it's daytime! What would you expect??? JMO

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what about the undisturbed dirt under the eagle?

I believed too, until the other night.
Not sure now.

JFK was shot from the bridge in front of them.
Officer Tippet, was killed by the same.

my . 02
 
Tune in next week when they show Elvis skydiving into area 51 without a chute. Come on guys, this is getting embarassing.

Actually they spent 2 yrs auditioning for these movies training with kangaroos so they could defy gravity & hop around like that.

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I found this at Fox.com:

My name is Bart Winfield Sibrel. I am the writer, producer, director of "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" (moonmovie.com), the controversial documentary which inspired the recent Fox special. I was also interviewed during the program as the investigative journalist who came upon the story about five years ago while working for NBC news in Nashville. So in-depth was my research, that I spent five years producing the documentary at a cost of $500,000. All I had to start with was one source, a seventy-seven year old man who worked for the space program, who said that it was impossible to go further than earth orbit because of lethal space radiation, and that the moon missions were falsified to fool the Soviet Union about US strategic capability during the height of the Cold War. I found the whole notion of using television to fool the masses quite preposterous, although the quiz show scandal of the 1950’s did just that. Then about three years into the project, I uncovered from NASA archives a mislabeled reel of footage from the first mission to the moon (Apollo 11). It contains unedited "outtakes", behind the scenes excerpts, of the crew of Apollo 11 (all identified on camera) very cleverly rigging a false shot of their mission photography. It was dated by an atomic clock three days after they left for the moon (July 18, 1969)! It is clearly not "training" footage, for they were clearly in zero gravity aboard the actual spacecraft three days into the mission. They simply stayed in earth orbit for eight days, as the unedited tape proves. They were on the rocket that launched and really splashed down in the Pacific ocean for a convincing beginning, ending, and authentic zero gravity footage during the flight in front of the real equipment. The shot they were staging is from the actual spacecraft in earth orbit, and it was truly ingeniously clever. The scene they were falsifying was that of the earth at a distance of "130,000 miles out" (as Neil Armstrong stated for the illusion), or half way to the moon, as they should have been three days into their flight, as the tape is undeniably dated. He explained for the viewers, "We only have one window that faces the earth and it's completely filled up with the TV camera. " In other words, the lens of the color video camera onboard the spacecraft was touching the glass of their only window which faced the earth, which was then, supposedly, 130,000 miles away from the spacecraft. Imagine a mostly black TV screen with a tiny blue earth in the center of it composing about 15% of the screen. This falsely demonstrated that they were "half way to the moon", as they should have been three days into their mission, as the atomic clock generated slate clearly indicated they were at this point. Because I have the unedited version (only 10 seconds or so of the best shot was edited out and shown to the public) we see, and hear conversations about, how the shot is rigged. The camera was actually at the back of the spacecraft, not up against the window’s glass as Neil Armstrong claimed. They turned out all the lights and blocked sunlight from entering through the other windows to make the interior completely dark. (They discussed this, assuming that these conversations would be edited out. ) Several feet in front of the camera was a circular window, outside of which it was completely filled with the earth, in low orbit. With the inside walls darkened, and the camera back from the earth-filled circular window in the foreground, the border of the window appeared to be the diameter of the entire earth at a distance, with the darkened walls of the spacecraft around the window appearing to be the black void of space around the earth. You were actually seeing a section of the earth, in earth orbit, outside of a circular window, filled with the earth, made to appear to be the entire earth at a distance of "130,000 miles. " This unedited, behind the scenes tape, even catches them inserting a crescent shaped piece of black cardboard slightly inset to the window to make it look like the terminator line dividing night and day. It is truly clever and convincing looking, except for the fact that we have the unedited tape of them doing the shot about twenty times while they're talking about how they're staging it! In addition, there is a third track of secret audio on this tape, that is crystal clear at times, of not only the astronauts and Houston Control, but of someone else prompting the astronauts with what to say, when to speak, and how to effectively manipulate the camera to achieve the misleading effect! IT MEANS THEY DID NOT GO TO THE MOON! THEY ARE STILL IN EARTH ORBIT THREE DAYS AFTER LIFT OFF! IF THEY REALLY WENT TO THE MOON, WHY WOULD THEY BE FALSIFYING ANY PART OF IT? IF THEY ARE FAKING A SHOT OF BEING "HALF WAY TO THE MOON", IT MUST BE BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT EVEN GO HALF WAY (LETHAL SPACE RADIATION)! SINCE THE FIVE MISSIONS THAT FOLLOWED USED THE EXACT SAME EQUIPMENT, AND APOLLO 11’s EQUIPMENT COULDN’T MAKE IT BEYOND EARTH ORBIT, NONE OF THEM COULD HAVE EVER WENT. Apollo 13’s "life or death drama" happened after the second mission to the moon, whereby viewers telephoned their local TV stations and complained that reruns of "I Love Lucy" were being interrupted. This focused attention back on the moon missions. With this footage showcased for the first time in "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" (moonmovie.com), not included in the Fox special, I am absolutely convinced that humankind has not, and yet can not, set foot on the moon. When Japan sent a probe two years ago to take close-up pictures of the moon’s surface (possibly revealing nothing at all at the alleged Apollo landing sites) it’s camera, coincidentally, malfunctioned! (You know those Japanese can’t make a camera worth anything, right?) I feel like I am the bearer of very bad news that is, nevertheless, the truth. DON’T SAY "IMPOSSIBLE" UNTIL YOU SEE THIS ONE OF A KIND FOOTAGE FOR YOURSELF!
 
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