Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) My first dead vp44

[NCoulter]

This is my first diesel truck and my first dead injector pump. My trucks fuel system is stock. I have a set of isspro guages and banjo bolts waiting to be installed but its a little late now. I don't know which vp44 I need. I was thinking Blue Chip or Industrial Injection hot rod replacement pump? I plan on adding a fass II kit (or similar pusher kit) after I install the injector pump. I plan on adding a edge comp shortly I know it will void a factory warranty but will it viod aftermarket warranties? I also plan on a big set of injectors (aprox mach 4. 5s) and all them other goodies but that is a while down the road. I want the best pump for the money and I don't want to replace it again. I am in college and have no truck time is of the essence. Thanks guys I know you will steer me in the right direction.



Nathan

sorry so long

 

[klaybus]

but will it viod aftermarket warranties?



Check with the vendor you chose! Ask if it voids warranty on either mechanical or electrical failure. I know there have been misunderstandings in the past that got pretty friggin UGLY! The customers VP44 failed & apparently it wasn't covered due to the tapped injection pump wire so then the customer put a stop payment on the check or credit card used on the purchase. Just be informed so you know the risks involved with tapping the pump wire.



Clay

 

[Fishin Guide]

If everything is stock, you may try the dealer. Some will replace units that are out of warranty.



If that doesn't work, get an aftermarket unit with a warranty. Everyone has their own opinion on this, but I would not shell out the cash for a hotrod pump. I do not believe they carry a warranty (I could be wrong) and performance gains seem to vary from user to user.



Call Rip Rook at Rip Rook or Lenny at DDP .



Both of these guys offer pumps with a 1 year warranty, tapped or not. And they are both going to be around for support down the road, not to mention very competitive pricing.



Dave

 

[TGibbs]

I am in the same darn boat. In college, bad injector pump, and need the FASS also. I think I am going to go through Industrial Injection and get there pump but not the hot rod. An extra 600 bucks doesnt seem worth it for 40 hp when at the moment I have a lot of hp that is unusable while towing. I am going to take that 600 and roll it into a turbo from II also within the month hopefully. I have heard the Hot rod makes the truck more responsive and smoke a little bit more but I can do that with my Comp and when I pull up beside CHP I can turn the Comp off and have a clean exhaust.



My . 02

 

[NCoulter]

The dealer wanted $1907 for the vp44 alone, and they said it was on sale. Thats out of my league. Its either Industrial injection or Rip. I think I will go with Rip I have had goodexperience with him. Thanks guys.

 

[Moose Truck]

Don't do the Hotrod VP-44

My Vp44 had died :{ last week. Just died accelerating away from a stop sign. Only code on the Odometer was "P1693". The P1693 is a code for "P1693 (M) DTC Detected in Companion Module A fault has been generated in the companion engine control module. Frank at Noble High Performance tested it with his lap top and the ECM had it as a Internal (Rotor) failure.



I had asked about the "Hotrod VP44" and was told that they shear off their rotors in about 40K miles. As they shear off the rotors, it trashes the pump and then you are out of the core charge, too.



The best advice I had gotten was use a VP44 from a "TDR" type of Vendor. Bob Wagner sells a pump that he said he will warrantee with a tapped wire. I imagine that BlueChip would do so too, as they sell a box and a tap kit. Should get the Truck Back Saturday Oo. Moose00 Oo.

 

[NCoulter]

I went ahead and ordered my vp44 through industrial injection. They seemed to be the most knowledgable of the people i talked to. Not to to mention they build them and they are not just a distrubtor for someone else. My pump should be finished up Monday and then sent to me. Wish me luck. Thanks guys for all the help.



Nathan

 

[TGibbs]

Let me know how it goes as I will be doing mine in the next month or sooner if it craps out on me!

 

[R-N-R]

I went ahead and ordered my vp44 through industrial injection. They seemed to be the most knowledgable of the people i talked to. Not to to mention they build them and they are not just a distrubtor for someone else. My pump should be finished up Monday and then sent to me. Wish me luck. Thanks guys for all the help.



Nathan

All of the above companies maintain excellent reputations, but IIS is definately on top of this market.

 

[NCoulter]

After three days of wrenching I finally got it done! fass installed, guages installed, and new industrial injection vp-44. All is great. i was scared there for a little while but after all the air got out of the system she purrs like a kitten. I bypassed all the stock fuel lines and straight from the fass to the injector pump. I idle about 22 psi and at even wot it never falls below 20 psi. Is this all right? Iss-pro ev guages rock! thanks for all your help.

 

[MKoth]

I had asked about the "Hotrod VP44" and was told that they shear off their rotors in about 40K miles. As they shear off the rotors, it trashes the pump and then you are out of the core charge, too.

If hotrod pumps were blowing up after 40K miles, you would think someone on this forum would have posted about it.



The person that told you that wanted to sell a VP they had on the shelf, and not have you go to Industrial, or somewhere else for a new VP.

 

[Fishin Guide]

If hotrod pumps were blowing up after 40K miles, you would think someone on this forum would have posted about it.



The person that told you that wanted to sell a VP they had on the shelf, and not have you go to Industrial, or somewhere else for a new VP.

I have heard the same thing. In fact, I had heard a story of a guy going through 3 of them and NONE were warranteed. Maybe he had them too long. After all, he ate all 3 in a week.



I have never seen conclusive evidence that you will get XX amount of horsepower to justify the hotrod pumps. Maybe some companies are better, but is any of them offering a warranty on a hotrod pump?



I know of a few high milage, beat on pumps. All of the others tat are holding up are reman stockers.



So, a few more HP, no warranty or remanned and a 1 year warranty? I'm not too smart mind you.



Does any vendor offer a warranty on one of thier hotrod pumps? I mean in writing, not some good ol boy wink and a spit.



Dave

 

[rkressg]

I personally am on VP44 #3, this most recent pump is a Hot Rod from Industrial Injection. The only real benifit of these pumps is the larger plungers which only really benefits the High Horsepower trucks (over 500 HP).



Any VP44 can and will fail (given enough time). I personally feel that Brady builds the best VP44s you can get and they are at a reasonable price. Also, I was not aware that the VP44s from Industrial Injection did not come with a warranty (I tapped the wire on my pump before I bolted it onto the truck, I only care about HP, if it breaks, I will get another).

-Rich

 

[Diesel Nut]

I don't know about the others, but Industrials HR VP44 has much more durable electronics in it making it capable of alot more heat torerance before faiure. I have installed one of these and am getting ready to install another one for a customer. No complaints as of yet, just smiles!

 

[rweis]

Just a thought:



INSTEAD of tapping the VP and a box, do a Catcher (the new thing is called Smarty, not due out till early 06 though). As far as I can tell you get the hp and no tap since it comes from the ECM (Smarty looks like it will have several different hp levels).



Thought I would throw that out and see what the ideas are.



Bob Weis