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Thought I would share my experience and suggestions on the T-Rex suspension system. I opted for the mild 4 shock Bilstein setup with the mini paks in the rear. $2300 plus shipping.



First misconception. I won't need a front end alignment. WRONG! Major toe in problem caused by effective chassis lift from new springs. Get it aligned ASAP!!



Second misconception. Stock tires and wheels will be fine. Not as wrong as the front end alignment BUT. Ride was not that impressive with worn OEM E rated tires except for aggressive driving/jumping. Today, I replaced my third set of OEM size/type worn Michelin LTX A/S 265/75/16 E''s with the new Michelin LTX 285/75/16 D rated tires, keeping the stock wheels. About $199 per tire. Vast overall suspension improvement and a much better look/ride for the truck. Tires are taller/wider and fit the wheel wells much nicer than OEM size. (I know, PICS, PICS) It;s freekin midnight, I'll try tomorrow. The OEM's turn 654 rpm's per mile @ 45/mph vs 634 rpm's/mile for the 285's. About a 3% wheel/speedometer difference. Off-road performance with T-Rex suspension is greatly enhanced over stock tires. Reason.



Max pressure on these tires is 65 PSI vs 80 PSI on the E rated tires. I am running 45 up front and 40 in the rear now which makes a huge difference in the "plushness" of the ride. E rated tires max @ 80 PSI @ 3415 lbs per tire at max pressure. The D rated 285's are rated @ 3305 lbs at 65 PSI. I can tell you that E rated tires do not wear properly at 50ish PSI (under-inflated) and do not ride very well off road. These new 285 Michelin's seem to be the perfect tire for me as I only lose 110 lbs per tire/wheel rated carrying capacity and I can run in the 40 PSI range (unloaded) without wrecking my tires.



I have read that the Toyo M/X E rated tires with the 18" wheels are supposed to be the dream setup but after the T-Rex payment I could only handle new tires! I am pretty happy with the overall effect. Truck now feels almost like wifes Jeep Grand Cherokee on the dirt road but sucks up the big stuff like the Jeep never will. Road feel is like a "stiff" Cadillac. Expansion joints are there but most of the uncomfortable "edge" is removed. Hit a few railroad tracks at 50+, WOW. SWEEET. Like people are saying, this system likes it fast and hard. Very slow dirt driving is about like stock or worse if you have stock tires/wheels.



Last item not mentioned yet? Steering. I have noticed that there is a general sensitivity loss in the steering due to the geometry change relative to the drag link and the pitman arm and/or the bigger tires. I was surprised at the overall lift that the truck got from the new springs and can see/feel the change. The difference is not earth shattering but after thousands of hours and hundreds of thousands of miles with my truck, I can feel the difference and would like my steering sharpness back, realizing that slightly larger tires will remove a bit of this feel.



My 2 cents, gents.
 
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I've had mine on for a little over 1,000 miles now and the ride gets better as time goes on. Guess they needed some time to break in. One day I will get to go to the Dunes and play in the sand with this, some day:{
 
I am glad the reports have been good. However the price puts these WAY out of my price range. Especially when my truck truck with the D25 coils and 5100 series Bilstiens handle better then I could have imagined. :cool:
 
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Make sure you have a hardened or billet input shaft/drum before getting any air on dry pavement! Got some larger Michelin's and got some air over some RR tracks and twisted the 47RE's input shaft cleanly in two. Also have an adjustable TC lockup that might have added to the trauma.
 
The takeoff and landing were fantastic, besides the snapped trans. Lands like a half ton with extra travel & nice shocks.
 
Originally posted by Chipstien

I am glad the reports have been good. However the price puts these WAY out of my price range. Especially when my truck truck with the D25 coils and 5100 series Bilstiens handle better then I could have imagined. :cool:



I also have the 5100s (the aluminum ones that are all pretty) and the D25s.



The handling IS pretty good, but the ride isn't really much better. The big difference is in off-road capability-- no bottoming now.



Still, the Bilsteins are a very slight improvement. They don't do jack for washboard and bad roads.
 
Just wondering, did I put the mini pak on like it's supposed to? The dirs are all words, I am a picture kinda guy! It was a little unclear to me.



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I dont think the steel alignment shim should be in the middle of the pack, I removed them. Also on my truck the drivers side front clip bolt would catch on the emergency brake cable if the nut was to the inside.

Jared
 
I just added a pair of T-Rex coils and a pair of the Bilstein 5100s up front last night. Not a bad leveling kit but high at about $450. Mini-packs for the rear would add another $300. It's level now and so I'm not sure about the mini-packs. Alignment will come on Monday, but no death wobble or other strange driving/steering characteristics to speak of yet. Running 315 BFGs with no more rubbing.



P. S. For the T-Rex do-it-yourselfer, the coils are marked Driver and Passenger. I didn't see that and had to do the teardown and install twice. Common sense to some, but this was my first suspension work ever.
 
KRY- that single honking overload spring in the rear is replaced by three smaller springs that are progressive. No change in load capacity, just more give. Simple installation and worth the $$$ in my book.

Greg
 
Am I seeing that right, the mini pak goes UNDER the leaf springs? I thought it went on top to replace the overloads.
 
CFAST, Definatley UNDER. You remove the overload spring (bottom largest one and replace with the mini pak. I am making sure about the removal of the two (in my case) upper springs above the OEM spacer block.
 
If your truck has the Camper package you remove the overload pack above the main spring and replace the extra thick booster leaf below the main pack with the mini pack, if you don't have the camper package you don't have the overload above the main so you will only replace the thick leaf on the bottom. If I remember correctly the steel shim in the center of the pack in raf2000s picture was used to keep the bottom leaf alighted with the main pack and should be removed so all the leafs are together. On my truck the mini pack raised the rear almost as much as the front springs, the rear is now 2" higher than the front measured from the top of the rim to the fender, 18" front 20"rear.
 
I figured that it would keep the mini pak and the remaining OEM's springs aligned. Adds about 1/16 to the entire pack so I will leave it alone for now.
 
August issue of Four Wheeler has a '99 Dodge T-Rex install article.



Note says. .



"Upper and lower overload springs are removed and replaced with T-Rex minipacks. "



Picture shows three white leaves on top of three black leaves.
 
raf2000, I am thinking of going this route. Thanks for the comments on your experience. I am reading these posta with much interest trying to decide if it's worth the big bucks that this system costs.
 
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