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Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) My truck survived a bad wreck

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I was on the way home from Wisconsin. We were on I-26 near Lexington, SC. An 18 wheeler was entering the highway at a good rate of speed. I moved over to let him in and this move combined with getting to the top of the grade and his taking the air of off me got us into an uncontrollable sway. I let off the throttle and tried to guide it out, but it was to much. We ended up in the median. The trailer climbed a small embankment and overturned, but never came off of the hitch. The truck did not overturn. If you were looking at a clock, I looked like 10 past 12. The truck was the little hand on the twelve and the trailer was the big hand on the 2. The bed on the passenger side was pushed up, but there was no damage to the axle or the tires. The fender was cracked, but not crushed. There was enough flex to push the right front quarter panel out about a quarter of an inch. The trailer was towed to Columbia. I followed in the truck. It tracked true and had no vibrations or strange noises. The frame did not get bent. After we salvaged what we could off the trailer the next day, we headed for home, which was still a 250 mile trip. It was the longest trip of my life. The good thing, other than the bed looking a little lopsided, was that the truck ran just fine. No driveline leaks or vibrations and as I said, it ran true on all road surfaces encountered. It's been in the shop for close to two weeks, with the majority of the damage done to the bed. The bed flexed enough to put a small dent in the rear of the cab on the passenger side, but further inspection underneath revealed no stress points where the bed pulled up from the frame. The only thing that I could find that was cracked was the fiberglass fender on the right rear. As near as I can determine, the trailer never whacked the truck very hard. I think the embankment had something to do with that. I also slid on dirt for a good distance and this probably helped. The trailer most likely slapped the embankment and went up it and overturned. Had it been flat there, we may have went into the west bound lane of 26 or the truck may have rolled. It's hard to say. When I got out of the truck at the scene I could smell that 18 wheeler's brake linings. He must have really stood on them hard. He stopped right across the highway from us. Had we stayed in the highway we most likely would have been hit and killed. No other vehicles were involved which was a blessing. The trailer is totalled. Most of what I know of the wreck is from friends asking me questions and my memory coming back as they did. I was able to piece together what I have just related in this post. I never got to talk to anybody behind me and that's a shame. I would have loved to hear a description of what they saw. I was running about 65 at the time the accident started and I had just crested a grade, not a big one, but one of those rolling kind of hills that comprise a good part of I-26 from Orangeburg and westward. The trailer had been squirrelly all day, most of that in wind or heavy traffic. We drove home running 60-65 most of the day. Traffic was virtually nonexistant where the accident happened and the trailer was towing as good as anyone towing anything could possibly desire. We thought we were home free after all the stuff we had driven through all day. You're never home until your home. When the trailer got squirrelly on us during the day, my wife kept saying that 5th wheels don't do this, do they. We had planned on trading in the trailer on a 5ver when her Buick was payed off. I guess we'll start sooner. The dog took the worst beating. She ended up on the floor behind my seat, but no damage done. My wife and I are fine. All in all, it could have been a whole lot worse. Still sucks, though. I have pictures if anyone is interested. E-mail me at home and I'll be glad to get them to you. Now I know what NASCAR drivers mean by just holding on for the ride. It's an experience I wish I didn't have. I should have the truck back tomorrow or early next week. I like the wife's car, but I really enjoy the truck :) My new clutch meant an increase of almost 1. 5 mpg in fuel mileage. That other clutch must have been really stressing when I towed. You guys at SBC really made a believer out of me. That clutch is awesome and the truck towed so much smoother.



John
 
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Dang, John, I'm sorry to hear about the truck and trailer, but more importantly, I'm glad to hear that you're all OK!



Rusty
 
Type of Hitch?

John, glad to hear you, your family and your truck are safe and healthy.



Just curious, what type of hitch were you using on your trailer? A load equalizing hitch or a sway control link or just a bare trailer ball??



Greg L
 
John,

Very glad to hear no one was hurt. When your truck gets released from the hospital, go put a fiver hitch in the bed. You'll never have those sway problems again.

Phil
 
It was a load distributing hitch with a 2-5/8 ball. The wet weight of the trailer was 9500 lbs. I don't know this for sure, but if I didn't have a dually, I think I would have been worse off. When I saw the picture of the trailer at the junk yard, I couldn't believe how bent the tongue frame was relative to the trailer frame. And then I couldn't believe that the truck wasn't in worse shape, frame wise. The hitch that came with the truck from the factory was hardly off center. It needs to be replaced, but it held up remarkably considering the torque it was put under. I got the financing set for the 5'ver. Now to find a good one. I can't wait to tow again. That's what my truck lives for.
 
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John, I'm glad to hear you and your wife weren't hurt.



Thank you for sharing your adventure with us.



I for one would be interested in seeing the pics you spoke of.



Good luck, and God bless...



John
 
John,

Just in case you didn't get my E-mail and for everyone else that wants to know about it, here is a pic. It is a hitch system that makes a TT feel like a 5th wheel . no sway.



Here is the E-mail I tried to send. I tried it on my other server... .



John,

I read your post on your accident caused by sway.

I saw a device on another truck from a member. it makes a ball style trailer, feel like a 5th wheel trailer. It Does this by making 2 pivots while still being able to back it up. He swears by it. it is also easier to hook up. The device hooks to the trailer ball and another piece is like a 2 1/4" square pipe that goes into the reciever hitch we have. The guy had a weight dist. system on it too.

Hope this helps you in your future travels.

Eric
 
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survive...

I'm glad to hear you were not hurt. Sometimes things happen pretty fast.

I have a practice of running through procedures in my mind to get used to what should be done when something like this happens. If it should ever happen again, rather than let off the accelerator, press the manual actuator bar or button to apply the trailer brakes without the truck brakes. This will put the trailer right back behind you. I've had to do this three or four times 16 years of trailer towing.



MHO
 
GLAD YOU ARE ALL SAFE

While I always loaded stupid heavy in the front of my 32' TT I too am a "convert". Now I tow a 35' 5th wheel. This trailer is almost twice the mass of the 'ol TT.



Just beaware John that you'll have to say good by to that great TT fuel mileage as well!!!



I'm sincerely gratefull you and your family are unharmed and have such a wonderful "live and learn" approach.



Sincerely, Ian.
 
Re: survive...

Originally posted by WestTN

I'm glad to hear you were not hurt. Sometimes things happen pretty fast.

I have a practice of running through procedures in my mind to get used to what should be done when something like this happens. If it should ever happen again, rather than let off the accelerator, press the manual actuator bar or button to apply the trailer brakes without the truck brakes. This will put the trailer right back behind you. I've had to do this three or four times 16 years of trailer towing.



MHO



I thought about that... . two days later. I guess we think alike. Already filed that one away for future reference. I've always been under the impression that keeping your foot into it is asking for trouble. But hitting the manual actuator sounds like it might work. I don't plan on going out and experimenting, if you know what I mean;) I didn't have more than a second or two before the swaying was terminal. It happened so fast.





The truck is being painted today. It should be done tomorrow and Wednesday morning they're taking it to a shop to check tire alignment. I made an error when I said that the right front side of the truck was out of alignment. It was actually the driver's side front fender. I should have the truck back Wednesday night. We went out and got what appears to be a steal of a deal on a 2001 Montana, model 2955. I get the Reese put in on Friday and then I pick up the 5'ver. The Montana looks like it was hardly ever used. So much the better for us.
 
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You don't necessarily have to "keep your foot into it" as you have to gradually let off the accelerator. If you abruptly let off the throttle, the sudden weight transfer will lighten up your rear end and ultimately the gripping force that's trying to resist your trailer from throwing you around...
 
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