Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Need More Power

[MRiley]

Help. I just got my first 5er and was a little sad with how my truck pulled it. I live at 7000 feet and pull a lot of hills comming in and out of here. Except for the exhaust and the intake the truck is stock. What would be a good first BOBM step for me. I'm not looking to spend big $$$ so bang for your buck is really important.

 

[TJarecke]

You could get the new juice with attitude. It isn't cheap, but if you consider the price of gauges and a box it doesn't seem so bad. I think I saw a group purchase on them too.

 

[darkhorse]

Help. I just got my first 5er and was a little sad with how my truck pulled it. I live at 7000 feet and pull a lot of hills comming in and out of here. Except for the exhaust and the intake the truck is stock. What would be a good first BOBM step for me. I'm not looking to spend big $$$ so bang for your buck is really important.

You should have boost, egt & fuel pressure gauges. For a first power mod, I'd suggest a Smarty. If you want more after that go with bigger injectors.

 

[MRiley]

I installed gauges. Boost, EGT, and Fuel pressure. Sorry I forgot to mention that in my original post. I really don't want to tear my clutch up. So will a smarty or a Juice work with my stock clutch? I'm just looking for more pulling power. At this altitude and with the rather steep grades it really feels a little weak when pulling my 5th, it's about 12000 lbs. Anybody with a simular setup who could comment on the performance differences would sure be great.

 

[TJarecke]

If you already have the gauges, go with the smarty. Sounds like it would be a good match for you.

 

[Bob Wagner]

If you are looking for lowend power and torque nothing fuels lower in the powerband than smarty.

 

[JHoppis]

Go with a Edge EZ module. Yo will gain 65 HP and 185 ft/lb s of torque. You can get them pretty cheap. Go to www.cmpchips.com and call them.

 

[BSmalley]

MRiley, Best bang for the buck out there is the Smarty IMHO. Ditto what darkhorse stated above. . I don't think you'll be sorry for going with the Smarty.

 

[StevenP]

How much are the smarty's and who sells them?

 

[darkhorse]

How much are the smarty's and who sells them?

Wagner and Associates



toll free 888-225-7637

 

[Bob Wagner]

Steven, Here is a lot of reading to explain fully about the smarty. The TDR would like to keep most technical information about smarty in one post.



It coming to the point where we should open another thread.



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146774





Enjoy

 

[MRiley]

Anyone out there had experience with the smarty and the ez. I would like to know how the two compare.

 

[StevenP]

Good enough... Thanks

 

[darkhorse]

Anyone out there had experience with the smarty and the ez. I would like to know how the two compare.

I ran an EZ on my '01. 5 before I got a CaTCHER (Smarty #9) I'd have to say, on the top end they are about the same, but on the bottom end, Smarty just plain responds faster. It's in the throttle response & lack of turbo lag that makes the Smarty shine.

 

[MRiley]

So is it better to go with a Smarty or a set of injectors like mach 1. They are both about the same price. Like I siad I'm in it for towing not racing. Also is it cool to tow with the Smarty turned up? I read somewhere on an old post the some boxes, like the comp shouldn't be run the higher levels when towing.

 

[jrobinson2]

The injectors will need a boost fooler of some sort, The Smarty and the Edge EZ have that built in so they make a better first choice IMO.

I ran an EZ and 275 injectors for 4 years and just got a Smarty, I also would recomend the Smarty over the EZ.



Jared

 

[MRiley]

I ran an EZ and 275 injectors for 4 years and just got a Smarty, I also would recomend the Smarty over the EZ.

Did you change out your clutch or did it hold with the injectors + the EZ. And how did you use the truck, Towing or empty driving?

 

[jrobinson2]

The EZ went in around 40k, the 275s at around 60k. I still have the stock exhaust and with this combo exhaust temps have never been over 1250* The stock clutch held fine until I lost the 5th gear nut at 145k. The clutch looked great when I pulled it, I would have run it another 100k with a new pilot and T/O but the center was cracked (the 5 speeds do this but your 6 speed should be fine)

275s are only around 35hp, any larger injectors and you would probably need to upgrade the clutch.

My driving is about 75% empty or lightly loaded, the other 25% is usually over 15,000 lbs and sometimes as much as 26,000 lbs



Jared

 

[Supermod56]

Smarty After that get some Mach-1's, best thing I did, next to the Smarty of course!!



Tom