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I put the same system in on my 2500 so/auto about 3 weeks ago. I did not feel it was worth the cost of $299. 99. I hope you feel it was worth the cost. I would of rather put in a drop in AFE for the cost. I believe it would be about the same in power. Also did not like that we had to reuse the factory air box base, thought that was tacky for the price. However the K&N filter is nice. 
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Vaughn MacKenzie
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Here's a photo from Airaid's site. Looks pretty cool. How spendy was it approximately??
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Here's a photo from Airaid's site. Looks pretty cool. How spendy was it approximately??
Vaughn
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Vaughn MacKenzie
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I have an AFE on my current truck I really like, which supposedly only draws 2" (or was it 2 cm?) of water at 850 CFM. That is great flow. I'm going to keep it in hopes the induction system AFE is coming out with soon for the '03s will take the same filter. If not, no biggie, I'll sell it and get the new system
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If you're worried about getting water or other debris on your filter with a cold air setup, read the post I made in this thread.
https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=611296#post611296
There is a solution.
https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=611296#post611296
There is a solution.
Airaid on my 2003
I installed one a couple of weeks ago. No guess on the HP claims in my HO, but I immediately noticed lower EGTs- 50-100 degrees. $206 delivered- check ebay!
Any guesses as to whether adding a Ram air hood will help? I found one from Keystone, and the dealer says it is functional. I am hoping that the addition of cold air will be an asset.
I installed one a couple of weeks ago. No guess on the HP claims in my HO, but I immediately noticed lower EGTs- 50-100 degrees. $206 delivered- check ebay!
Any guesses as to whether adding a Ram air hood will help? I found one from Keystone, and the dealer says it is functional. I am hoping that the addition of cold air will be an asset.
That looks exactly like the old FIPK K&N intake and filter I used to have on my Tahoe. I noticed a bit more noise or power at high rpm, hard to separate the two sometimes. Guys just beware that K&N's have poor filtration abilities, which is why they flow so much air. Also note that you may be pulling in hot engine air instead of cold outside air. Some aftermarket companies make cold-air-intakes(not sure if for ram's) that have tubes from the grille that direct cold air right at the filter. Something about the density of the air and the temp compared to engine bay temps added more performance. Anyway, the setup does look pretty cool. I'm a little leery till I see dyno results. .
I'm not touching the K&N filter comment. 
There is an enclosed system that uses more then one air intake and since some are not aware of it here... I will let you in on it.
Its the Scotty Air III [Ram Air 3]
Folks that have it and are using it have seen some results that exceed are expectations as well as give more results then the Scotty Air II for the 2nd gen trucks.
Some of which are;
- Faster acceleration times with a load
- 50 rpm lower for the same cruising speed
- Better mid range and top end rpm power
These are reports from customers that seem to be repeated results from numerous individuals in different climates and/or applications.
Air likes rounded and smooth avenues of flow. The engines like cooler denser air. We feel we have accomplished this. Plus a larger filter is incorporated too.
Go to the Wildcat Diesel site, click on dodge performance then click on scotty air systems in the left column... you'll see a few pix of the new system there.
There is an enclosed system that uses more then one air intake and since some are not aware of it here... I will let you in on it.
Its the Scotty Air III [Ram Air 3]
Folks that have it and are using it have seen some results that exceed are expectations as well as give more results then the Scotty Air II for the 2nd gen trucks.
Some of which are;
- Faster acceleration times with a load
- 50 rpm lower for the same cruising speed
- Better mid range and top end rpm power
These are reports from customers that seem to be repeated results from numerous individuals in different climates and/or applications.
Air likes rounded and smooth avenues of flow. The engines like cooler denser air. We feel we have accomplished this. Plus a larger filter is incorporated too.
Go to the Wildcat Diesel site, click on dodge performance then click on scotty air systems in the left column... you'll see a few pix of the new system there.
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Re: I'm not touching the K&N filter comment.
Waitaminnit here. How can you have lower engine speeds (lower rpm) for the same cruising speed? The idea of more horsies is not that the engine turns slower, but that it turns FASTER! 'Splain, in little words that my brain can understand, how you can get more horsepower from a breather, which I understand, but that this helps the engine turn slower to go faster! Gears maybe?
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Originally posted by scott1
Its the Scotty Air III [Ram Air 3]
Some of which are;
- Faster acceleration times with a load
- 50 rpm lower for the same cruising speed
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Waitaminnit here. How can you have lower engine speeds (lower rpm) for the same cruising speed? The idea of more horsies is not that the engine turns slower, but that it turns FASTER! 'Splain, in little words that my brain can understand, how you can get more horsepower from a breather, which I understand, but that this helps the engine turn slower to go faster! Gears maybe?
:--)uhh, I detect a bit of [censored] here.
Several folks have called and or emailed that they are noticing that the tach is showing approximately 50 RPM lower for the same speeds.
I wish I could 'splain' in lil words for you. Like I stated in my previous post... there are some results we never expected and this one is one of them.
One individual installed his Scotty Air III while at a DTR show and the next day was quick to point out this result. He went and drove his truck again with his factory air box and then the Scotty III again... and... . lower rpm with the Scotty III.
Its got me a bit baffled too. However, this has been a more then random report from folks. My only guess is that theres enough air to burn the fuel more efficiently so that the engine does not have to work as hard at 'cruise' to produce the same speed.
I'm reaching with this answer/theory as its one of those things that made me go ... hmmmmmm.
Also, perhaps since there is a large air inlet behind the grill with this system that while cruising down the highway at 70 mph it does 'RAM' more air into the engine. Or should I say, makes more air available cuz we all know that the turbo dictates the air if theres enough there.
I simply stated the feedback we are getting and I really do not have a logical answer for this. Maybe the large air volume and pressure is altering what one of the sensors is seeing?
There is a difference between 'horsies' and torque. If one was to add 50 lbft of torque then my next guess is that you have more torque at the same rpm and do not need it all. Just a guess.
The seat o' pants meter from all who are using this system shows a better power band... in the real wolrd, going down the road.
We never saw the HP claims on the dynojet that other systems claim, we do feel it on the road though.
Several folks have called and or emailed that they are noticing that the tach is showing approximately 50 RPM lower for the same speeds.
I wish I could 'splain' in lil words for you. Like I stated in my previous post... there are some results we never expected and this one is one of them.
One individual installed his Scotty Air III while at a DTR show and the next day was quick to point out this result. He went and drove his truck again with his factory air box and then the Scotty III again... and... . lower rpm with the Scotty III.
Its got me a bit baffled too. However, this has been a more then random report from folks. My only guess is that theres enough air to burn the fuel more efficiently so that the engine does not have to work as hard at 'cruise' to produce the same speed.
I'm reaching with this answer/theory as its one of those things that made me go ... hmmmmmm.
Also, perhaps since there is a large air inlet behind the grill with this system that while cruising down the highway at 70 mph it does 'RAM' more air into the engine. Or should I say, makes more air available cuz we all know that the turbo dictates the air if theres enough there.
I simply stated the feedback we are getting and I really do not have a logical answer for this. Maybe the large air volume and pressure is altering what one of the sensors is seeing?
There is a difference between 'horsies' and torque. If one was to add 50 lbft of torque then my next guess is that you have more torque at the same rpm and do not need it all. Just a guess.
The seat o' pants meter from all who are using this system shows a better power band... in the real wolrd, going down the road.
We never saw the HP claims on the dynojet that other systems claim, we do feel it on the road though.
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Re: uhh, I detect a bit of [censored] here.
Well, the engine is certainly happier, but working "hard" or not has nothing to do with how fast the axle spins in relation to the crank. Unless there is driveline slippage, the relationship between engine speed and vehicle speed is completely determined by gears and tires, not by work or HP in the engine. Something in the drivetrain has to quit slipping or there's no way in Gods green earth you're gonna see an rpm decrease. that is, without somebody smoking something hallucinogenic, or something is confusing the measurement (i. e. the tach is wrong).
Scotty, is the TC locking up sooner or differently/better with the Air III? Do any of your std transmission customers also report an rpm decrease? maybe people are all just so happy with the RAM Air III that they run another 5 mph faster without knowing it.
Originally posted by scott1
... One individual installed his Scotty Air III while at a DTR show and the next day was quick to point out this result. He went and drove his truck again with his factory air box and then the Scotty III again... and... . lower rpm with the Scotty III.
Its got me a bit baffled too. However, this has been a more then random report from folks. My only guess is that theres enough air to burn the fuel more efficiently so that the engine does not have to work as hard at 'cruise' to produce the same speed.
Well, the engine is certainly happier, but working "hard" or not has nothing to do with how fast the axle spins in relation to the crank. Unless there is driveline slippage, the relationship between engine speed and vehicle speed is completely determined by gears and tires, not by work or HP in the engine. Something in the drivetrain has to quit slipping or there's no way in Gods green earth you're gonna see an rpm decrease. that is, without somebody smoking something hallucinogenic, or something is confusing the measurement (i. e. the tach is wrong).
Scotty, is the TC locking up sooner or differently/better with the Air III? Do any of your std transmission customers also report an rpm decrease? maybe people are all just so happy with the RAM Air III that they run another 5 mph faster without knowing it.
Auto trannies?
The fella that had his installed in Claremont VA was an auto.
I will check with Rod and the others and see who else has an auto and I will try and find out if they are HO or SO.
Thanks for pointing that out cuz I wasn't doubting the reports, just how it was happening... and what you said makes sense.
Maybe its locking up sooner? I know Rod has a six spd and did not get this result.
The fella that had his installed in Claremont VA was an auto.
I will check with Rod and the others and see who else has an auto and I will try and find out if they are HO or SO.
Thanks for pointing that out cuz I wasn't doubting the reports, just how it was happening... and what you said makes sense.
Maybe its locking up sooner? I know Rod has a six spd and did not get this result.
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