New By-Pass Element from Amsoil INc.

[amsoilman]

In case anyone is interested, Amsoil has now released a new By-pass filter element using the new "Synthetic Nano-Fiber" Technology. It is said to be 98. 7 percent effeicient @ 2 Micron. Here is a link to the information on it.







Wayne

amsoilman

 

[Diesel Power]

that clearly makes it the most efficient filter in the industry. thanks wayne :-laf

 

[JasonCzerak]

Yep, this mod is on deck.



Few quick questions (that I'm sure I can search for, but I'm lazy today )



1: how often do you change out the by-pass filter?

2: how often do you change out the regular filter?

3: Mostly intown 50/50 city/highway, sooting up the neighborhood driving. I change my oil every 5000 miles with amsoil 15w40 synthetic. I suppose geting the oil checked would determin this. But. I figure based on what I remember about this topic that 15,000 mile complete change intervals is what would be typical? I suppose this is what I would be comfortable with aswell.

 

[p-Bar]

I change my by pass every 20k the regular filter I chage at 5k this is with using syn oil

 

[JasonCzerak]

I change my by pass every 20k the regular filter I chage at 5k this is with using syn oil

And just add in one quart of oil I assume... how often do you change out all the oil at once? do you even bother anymore?

 

[amsoilman]

Yep, this mod is on deck.



Few quick questions (that I'm sure I can search for, but I'm lazy today )



1: how often do you change out the by-pass filter?

2: how often do you change out the regular filter?

3: Mostly intown 50/50 city/highway, sooting up the neighborhood driving. I change my oil every 5000 miles with amsoil 15w40 synthetic. I suppose geting the oil checked would determin this. But. I figure based on what I remember about this topic that 15,000 mile complete change intervals is what would be typical? I suppose this is what I would be comfortable with aswell.

Thanks for asking that question, as I just spoke with Technical Service at Amsoil Inc. I can answer that.



Amsoil's recommended change on the EABP-90, EABP-100, or EABP-110 is 50,000 miles/one year, if using the Amsoil engine oils. Can go longer if using oil analysis.



Amsoil's recommendation on the Donaldson ELF-7349 (FULL-FLOW)that fits the Dodge/Cummins is 25,000/one year if using Amsoil engine oils. It too can be extended based on oil analysis.



These new filters are very high quality and very efficient. The ELF-7349 is 98. 7 % efficient@15 MICRON, and the EABP-** BY-PASS elements are 98. 7% efficient@ 2 MICRON.







Wayne

 

[JasonCzerak]

Thanks for asking that question, as I just spoke with Technical Service at Amsoil Inc. I can answer that.



Amsoil's recommended change on the EABP-90, EABP-100, or EABP-110 is 50,000 miles/one year, if using the Amsoil engine oils. Can go longer if using oil analysis.



Amsoil's recommendation on the Donaldson ELF-7349 (FULL-FLOW)that fits the Dodge/Cummins is 25,000/one year if using Amsoil engine oils. It too can be extended based on oil analysis.



These new filters are very high quality and very efficient. The ELF-7349 is 98. 7 % efficient@15 MICRON, and the EABP-** BY-PASS elements are 98. 7% efficient@ 2 MICRON.







Wayne

I currently use the ELF7349. I still change every 5,000 mile. I run things kinda hard "i think" I should get an oil test done for giggles.



When you say 25,000/one year. does only apply when used with a bypass system only?

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

WAYNE, is it your opinion - or Amsoil's - that the full flow filters you list are superior in overall filtration than the top Fleetguard filters many of us use?



I'd sure be interesting in seeing the difference in documented, independent real-life testing of some of the competing bypass filters, like the new Amsoil, the TP or paper towel units like my Frantz, and others such as the "butcher string" ones. They all (naturally!) claim theirs is "best", but most provide little stats to back up the claims...



I think on one of my future oil samples, I'll have a particle count included to see what turns up.

 

[Diesel Power]

that would be a recomendation from amsoil!

 

[RBell]

Hey everyone, I was looking at getting dual bypass filter but I read over at the DieselRam site people were having problem with no oil pressure at startup. The local Amsoil guy said that they were recommending a different filter setup for the 04+ trucks. Are any of you running the regular bypass filter, if so are you having any problems. The way it sounded to me was it was only a problem with auto's, not sure why that would matter. . Any input would be great. . Thanks and have a great weekend. . ROB

 

[Diesel Power]

i am using the new set up and so far so good, the ecm was the problem it doesent adjust well to other pressurers out side stock parameters :-laf

 

[amsoilman]

WAYNE, is it your opinion - or Amsoil's - that the full flow filters you list are superior in overall filtration than the top Fleetguard filters many of us use?



I'd sure be interesting in seeing the difference in documented, independent real-life testing of some of the competing bypass filters, like the new Amsoil, the TP or paper towel units like my Frantz, and others such as the "butcher string" ones. They all (naturally!) claim theirs is "best", but most provide little stats to back up the claims...



I think on one of my future oil samples, I'll have a particle count included to see what turns up.

Hi there Gary,

Based on the testing that I have seen, using the (ISO-4548-12) International Standards Organization test for oil filters, the Oil Filters amsoil is offering are very high in both Efficiency and Capacity. These are the new Synthetic "NONO-FIBER" technology they now build the filters with. Each fiber is less than one micron in size, hense the name "NANO-FIBER".



They do include the micron rating on each of the filters.



Efficiency is 98. 7% @ 15 MICRON Capacity is 125 GRAMS



CUMMINS SPEC. # 10634 calls for Efficincy of 59. 5 %. Capacity of 59 GRAMS.

The above relates to the "FULL-FLOW" filters.



The BY-PASS elements using this same technology are rated 98% efficient @ 2 MICRON.



As far as the testing, Amsoil usually uses the (SWRI) Southwest Research Institute for testing.



As far as a test on the toilet paper oil filters, I think it would be rather difficult to get a consistant test, as each roll of paper is totaly different due to the tightness of how it is rolled.



You could possibly get some test results from other manufacturers, but the tests would have to be done using the same standards to be accurate.





Wayne

 

[RBell]

Diesel Power, Where did you tap the return line? It seems like there's only two options, the oil fill cap or tapping the oil pan. What was the ecm doing, did it set any codes? Last question, this is sad from someone who grew up in Maryland but where is Mechanicsville. I grew up just outside of Frederick in Jefferson MD. Thanks ROB

 

[amsoilman]

Hey everyone, I was looking at getting dual bypass filter but I read over at the DieselRam site people were having problem with no oil pressure at startup. The local Amsoil guy said that they were recommending a different filter setup for the 04+ trucks. Are any of you running the regular bypass filter, if so are you having any problems. The way it sounded to me was it was only a problem with auto's, not sure why that would matter. . Any input would be great. . Thanks and have a great weekend. . ROB

The by-pass system Amsoil is now recommending for the 2004 and up Dodge/Cummins trucks is a "Single" remote (BMK-11) as there is an issue of the computer on these trucks that "CAN" make the oil pressure gauge read low or even drop to ZERO!



However, in all the tests that they conducted on this, the "ACTUAL" oil pressure was not effected... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... just the reading.



Amsoil did issue a TSB on this, and now recommends the BMK-11 By-Pass as mentioned.





Wayne

amsoilman

 

[Diesel Power]

Diesel Power, Where did you tap the return line? It seems like there's only two options, the oil fill cap or tapping the oil pan. What was the ecm doing, did it set any codes? Last question, this is sad from someone who grew up in Maryland but where is Mechanicsville. I grew up just outside of Frederick in Jefferson MD. Thanks ROB

either location will work, i chose the filler cap--just get the swivle mount and you might look into a better cap like a billit one or somthing. yes it was setting a low pressure code, in maryland there is a place called st. marys county, southern maryland well thats where im at, and your from maryland!!!! :-laf

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

"Hi there Gary,

Based on the testing that I have seen, using the (ISO-4548-12) International Standards Organization test for oil filters, the Oil Filters amsoil is offering are very high in both Efficiency and Capacity. These are the new Synthetic "NONO-FIBER" technology they now build the filters with. Each fiber is less than one micron in size, hense the name "NANO-FIBER". "

Thanks Wayne I'll keep an eye on user reports and oil analysis numbers with the new filters - be interesting to see if they provide measurably improved analysis results compared to the Filterguard 3894 I've always used.



Always on the lookout for something BETTER! Oo.

 

[SMorneau]

I have my bypass dumping back to the engine through a fitting in the oil filler neck cap. I replace the filter when the flow diminishes or when the top of the filter gets to rusty to look at. So far it has always flowed oil when I have checked it. If the filter doesn't degrade I wonder why I would want to replace it while it still flow sufficiently.

 

[RBell]

Are there any other options on the return line? I really don't want to mess with the pan and I would rather not use the cap setup, is there another place to return the cleaned oil? If there is no other way, does the oil cap come with the system? Thanks everyone. ROB

 

[Diesel Power]

the turbo has a return line on it might see what you can come up with? :-laf

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I have my bypass dumping back to the engine through a fitting in the oil filler neck cap. I replace the filter when the flow diminishes or when the top of the filter gets to rusty to look at. So far it has always flowed oil when I have checked it. If the filter doesn't degrade I wonder why I would want to replace it while it still flow sufficiently.

A given filter can only absorb and hold just so much crud - and when that capacity is reached, it might clog, or simply start to "channel" and begin to allow contaminated oil to pass on thru.

"Are there any other options on the return line? I really don't want to mess with the pan and I would rather not use the cap setup, is there another place to return the cleaned oil? If there is no other way, does the oil cap come with the system? Thanks everyone. ROB"

On my engine, down low on the block just above the pan flange, there are some openings that are blocked off with caps resembling freeze plugs. Some guys have reported removing one of those plugs - apparently used as dipstick openings on some applications - and using them as an oil return.