New Emision Standards

[NStates]

What is Dodge-Cummins doing to meet the new emission standards. Ford has moved to the Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) system on their heavy trucks. What system will Dodge use on the 2011?

I am looking at trading but may change my mind.



ROVOL



2008 Dodge RAM 3500 Laramie Quad Cab 4X2



6. 7 Liter Cummins (R) Turbo Diesel Engine, 6 -Speed Automatic 68RFE Transmission, 3. 73 Anti-Spin Differential, Brilliant White, ISSPRO Gauges, Transfer Flow Fuel Tank, PullRite #20,500 Super 5th Hitch, Line-X, XTRA Bed liner , Hayes Genesis brake controller, PML Deep Transmission Pan, Custom Graphics, Pull a Mobile Suites Fifth Wheel.

 

[Jim W]

Are you asking about the C & C models or the pick-up trucks?

The pick-up trucks already meet the 2010 emission rules. The 6. 7L engine has meet these rules since the engine introduction in 7. 5 MDY.

The C & C trucks which have a different duty cycle will use Urea to help meet the emission rules for 2010.

Has this has been said many times. Dodge is will position to meet the emission rules and will not need an engine change until the next round of emission rule changes in the future for their CTD pick-up trucks and C & C trucks.

 

[Grizzly]

My dealer told me that all Dodge trucks with a Cummins diesel engine will be using urea by 2015. I believe urea is over $100 a gal. How long does it last?

 

[rscurtis]

Urea, once all the infrastructure is in place, will sell for about the same price as fuel. Personally, I think it is a better strategy than the adsorber that Dodge is using on the pickup. Ford and Chevy are claiming substantial fuel economy improvements on their new trucks with urea. There are no more emission reductions on the horizon- they are at virtually zero now. Future reductions of CO2 will be accomplished by increasing fuel economy, not by exhaust aftertreatment. Less fuel going in = less CO2 coming out.

 

[Shelby Griggs]

See post 26 in this thread https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/6-7l-engine-transmissions-2007-5/220220-dodge-gmc-2.html for a recent discussion on urea, much less than $100/gal, from Cummins in single gallons it is $8, and retails for about fuel prices in a bulk situation at truck stops.



By all accounts in class 8 trucks the fuel economy is improved, I think the urea at worst will be a net zero cost and could potentially save an operator some $$$.



SHG