New Hi-Res Pictures

[CJ Lagos]

Here are the pics that have been floating around but all in super high resolution. I modified one to be a good background image. It is sized for 1024x768. I rotated the image 1* counter clockwise in photoshop so the nose sat level



Enjoy, you can really get good details on the motor too.



Here is the link:

http://www.admotorsports.com/jeep.org/ramhd-2003



CJ

 

[dan_gilson]

Pretty nice pictures! I was amazed that I could even read the tire size from them. Thanks!

 

[RATTLINRAM]

WOW!

Nice pics CJ,

However, they would look alot better on a ,,,,,,,,,,,,, say,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 25" monitor and dial-up is really a bummer.

I see that you are just up the road from me. We'll have to get together sometime.

BTW, we also have a 78 CJ-5, Stock 6, and 33x12. 50's

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

Has anyone notices the new turbo??



It looks to have a 4" outlet and a very different compressor housing.

 

[HillCountrykid]

Mark, the new trucks have a 4" exhaust from the factory, so that probably explains the turbo outlet. Did you notice that the manifold turns down before the turbo. Must be a lot smaller engine compartment because I read the turbo almost hits the wheel well. Think that new B1 of your's would fit on it?



Brian

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

most definitely. . w/very little fab work. in place the B1 doesn't take up much space. an extra inch or two. You'd just have to clock it a bit. You'd need the 90* fitting that goes from the turbo to the tubing on a <2003 truck because of the different compressor outlet.

 

[IdaH.O.Train]

Nice Pics, but....

Typical advertising. I notice they've put the front seats forward quite a bit, to give the appearance of lots of room in the back seats. I'd like them to show some pictures of full-sized adults (6'0 and taller) in both the front and back, simultaneously and then we'll see just how it stacks up the the "real" crew cabs.

 

[Chipstien]

It looks to have a 4" outlet and a very different compressor housing.

:{ The turbo is a HY-35 which is has a 3. 5 outlet and the same compressor as the current autos. That means that if you want to hop it up alot, you will have to spend 600+ dollars for a HX-35. Nobody makes replacement housings for the HY turbo

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

What is the difference between the HX and the HY?



I don't see why they changed the turbo. It just makes the aftermarket make new downpipes and Ebrakes. I see no reason for it. the HY35 does not give better performance as far as I know. Emissions should not be affected appreciably either



I guess its possible that this is an engine for an auto?? maybe the std will have an HX??

 

[Chipstien]

From what I have read, all motors will have the HY. The main difference is the HX uses a bolt on housing and the HY uses a clamp on housing. Any mods over stage one injectors and an EZ syle box will experience to high of EGT's. The current HY's have a 9cm housing while the HX's have a 12cm housing. However, I believe that the new HY's will come with a 10 which is still not enough for stage 3 injectors. The HX-35 has numerous housings avaliable from 10 to 18's and possibly larger though 16 is probably the max you would want, while the HY-35 has none that I am currently aware of.

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

If you guys read my article you'll see that the HY35 turbo will be on all three versions of the engine 235/460, 250/460, and 305/555. The reason for the smaller turbo is very simple - PACKAGING. There is only about 3/4 inch clearance between the compressor side of the turbo and the shock tower. Mark, you'll find that it will take a lot of fabbing to get anything larger than what's on there to fit, you'll need to go to a custom manifold, change the downpipe, and move a bunch of stuff around. There's 30% less underhood space in the '03's than in the current trucks. If you look at my article I took quite a few up close pictures showing how tight it is in there. The Cummins engineers said that shoehorning the motor in there was difficult.

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

I missed the article. . where is it???

I'd've read it, if I'd've seen it...

 

[Chipstien]

Steve, already read it. Great article by the way, have you done the follow-up yet. As for the turbo, if you can't go larger without major ( and spendy ) modifications, then I will stick to the 2nd gen.

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

Mark, right at the top of this thread list there's a thread titled "ONLINE ARTICLE on '03 intro & welcome to the Next Generation forum" #ad
or there is a link to it on the front page of the TDR site! Chipstien - I'm still collecting information for the update.



-Steve

 

[HillCountrykid]

I was wrong, it was'nt the wheel well. It was the shock tower. See, I read some articles. I was being sarcastic about the B1 fitting. I thought Mark had read the article. Sorry Mark, did'nt mean to get you in trouble. Great article Steve. Very informative.



Brian

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

it'll fit. . just need a bigger hammer:-laf

 

[Wirenut]

I wonder if they are changing the ISC8. 3 to all this goofy crap? And I wonder if they are puttin goofy turbos on them also? I guess we may have to re-research performance for the new engine. I bet you could just get goofy parts off a brand new 8. 3 and put them on the goofy 5. 9. Sorry! I just hate change and "technology"

 

[JRG]

"shoehorned"

Maybe it's "shoehorned" to keep down on the "bombing"?:--)



JRG

 

[Wirenut]

Ok guys, I had a dream last night that dad got one of these 2003's! They are really goofy!

 

[Cummins4Life]

Nice Pics

Thanks for posting those pics!!!Oo. Oo.