New rear hubs/ drums

[brkoyle]

I went to my local dealer today for a replacement rear drum. They say that all that is available for the 1993 Dana 70 is a drum/ hub set up. Does anyone have experience with this set up? I have heard some conflicting reports as to this change.

 

[hdm48]

I would try a major brake outfit like nwbrake supply or whatever you have in you neck of the woods. You should be able to find just the drum. But don't forget to replace the studs since you will distroy them removing the drum from the hub.





Dave

 

[dan brooks]

The drum is available separately from the hub, and will be available from any reputable parts house... even Auto Zone/Checker/Pep Boys will have 'em. You'll probably have to ask for drums for a D350 - none of the ones listed in the book for the 3/4-ton were right... took three trips to get the correct ones.



Like Dave said, you'll have to knock the studs out to get them apart. It isn't difficult but it is time consuming. I reused my studs, but replacing them wouldn't be a bad idea - I'll get new ones next time.



I'd strongly recommend having the new drums turned once you get the hub installed - mine were out of round enough to cause a pretty good shake.

 

[MidwestMotorman]

If you have an air hammer or press, those studs will come right out with no damage. Using a regular hammer will swag and gall the ends. If you have put enough miles on the rig to wear out a drum, you may as well put in new studs for under $15 a side. Make sure they are fully seated though, and be sure to take an old one in order to get the right ones.

Also, if you were unlucky enough to run a brake pad down to the steel and you have LOTS of little metal flakes on your backing plates, you probably should replace your outer axle seal. I have seen them leak after this on nearly every rig after 5-10k miles.

 

[Case500D]

I just got a set of drums from NAPA. They are about $75 each. There are two different styles. One has no offset and is designed to fit 3/4 tons. The other style has a 2 inch offset and is designed for a dually. Replace the studs while you have it apart. Nothing worse than a stud turning in the hub while trying to tighten everything down.



Jeremy

 

[brkoyle]

Thanks very much guys. It looks like I have my work cut out for me.

 

[1stgen4evr]

drum hub setup

Old style not availably from Dodge? I think the new style is 'outboard drum' and that will be desirable in the long run. There was a post about that a while back. I am sure the parts house drums will be good if you don't want to spend the $$$$ on a change out. I am running NAPA drums and rotors on my D350.



1stgen4evr

James

 

[brkoyle]

Yes, you are correct. The old style is not available from the dealer any more. The only thing that is available is the new style drum with hub as an assembly or the new style drum alone, which will not work on the old style hub. This setup is outboard drum as has been described in the archives. I just want to make sure that the old style "coined" wheels will work, as I have to replace all 4 rear wheels. They are all bent, which really sucks.

 

[RGT]

have they done smething like this for the front too? I ask because I got a price on a front rotor fom the dealer and it was something like $525. 00, I went aftermarket.

 

[RGT]

just a note on the wheels, I bought new ones for $ 50 each, they are the same 16 x 6. 5 as stock, they were for a 94-97 Ram van, (heavy spec) If you were closer I'd offer to sell you my original set, I kept the old tires mounted as they still have a little life in them... .

 

[brkoyle]

Thanks for the offer, but I need the dual wheels.

 

[JLEONARD]

The other style has a 2 inch offset and is designed for a dually.

When I relaced my rear drums, I had to go with the 2 inch offset style... that's what was on there.

Wagner # BD60328

I have a D250



Jay

 

[Wayno]

I just did a brake job on my truck and I went to two Dealers and had them do some research , if you have a 3/4 ton you will have to buy the new hub and drum ( from the dealer ) and then you be able to pull off the drums with out pulling the hub . You can not use this new hub and drum on the one tons because of the interlocking dual wheels . If you have on of those rare single wheel one tons you can use the new hub and drum conversion . If I remember right they told me that I could buy just a drum from them ( for a one ton dual wheel ) but it was like around 300 big ones . I bought Rabestes brand and they ain't cheap either but they are suppose to be made in America . I didnt turn the new drums and they work fine I re-used my old studs and hope they didn't turn and they didn't BUT don't forget to use those speedy sleeves ----------------- but are you tired of running you brakes metal to metal before you know it and ruining you drums ? Well I drilled a 3/4 inch hole in both backing plates on the rear of the backing plate across from the e-brake cables ( because the rear ( back ) shoe will get to metal before the front will ) right where the shoe meets the drum so I can look at the shoe wear and do a brake job before it gets to metal to metal . You can put a plastic plug in the 3/4 inch hole to keep the hole plug up if you need to.

 

[prototech]

hey guys,

I just got done replacing the rear drums on my D-250. my truck had 2 1/2" shoes on it before and the 1" bore wheel cylinder, now it has 3" shoes and the 1 1/8" bore wheel cylinder. I found the drums at Henderson Parts Pro's for $44 each, all told it cost me about $220 to do the rear brakes. Oh yeah and I ditched the stock nyloc retaining nut with the sheetmetal retaining wedge and switched to the spicer right hand thread smart nut, It comes off of a Ford corporate axle. I also had to replace the E-brake arm off of the right side because the cable end was all messed up and the adjuster springs were all rusty and not working properly. My neighbor has a 86' ford corprate axle laying in his shop and he let me steal the parts I needed and they all fit. now my adjusters work on both sides! any way there are no mods needed to up grade to 3" shoes they fit the same and the drum is the same!

Proto

 

[prototech]

Oh yeah,

I forgot to mention, it looks like you could posibly use the hubs and drums off of the ford corprate axle they use the same pads and the drums come off with out removing the hub. as I said before the axle I took parts off of was about an 86'.

Proto

 

[James1]

Yes, you are correct. The old style is not available from the dealer any more. The only thing that is available is the new style drum with hub as an assembly or the new style drum alone, which will not work on the old style hub. This setup is outboard drum as has been described in the archives.

I apologize for resurrecting a thread more than a decade old .

Can someone enlighten me regarding the possibility of converting my 1993 D70 (single rear wheel) to outboard brakes? I would be willing to incur some expense to do so.