New Rims on a Dually

[InThinAir]

So I finally made a decision!! and purchased a set of Eagle Alloy rims for my Dually. I got the stock size and will be bound to the stock size tires for eternity, but the price seems to be dropping and now Cooper sells a few different models, studdable snows, in the stock size.



So they look nice and mounted up just fine. They are polished on the inside and outside... But it is interesting they only put them on the outer on the back, just like the ricksons. I guess that is the case with all Alum rims on duallys? I figured that saved me some cash anyway. But now I am wondering what my options are for rotation? I guess I can rotate the outers with the fronts and leave the inners alone.



But all in all, they are head and shoulder above the plastic simulators that come stock, and they only weigh 28 pounds. We will see how they hold up, but for now I would recommend them. Only downside is that they come with 1" lug nuts which makes the stock lug wrench not fit... Not an issue for me, but could be for some.



I will get some pictures as soon as my truck looks white again and you could actually tell I got new the rims and also see the cool new Cummins Mud Flaps I put on...



---Doug

 

[JRMora]

Generally the stud length is too short for aluminum rims inside and out. My friend with a 2nd gen dually has to remount the tires to rotate them (gets them rebalanced when he does). I know some people never rotate their dually tires - they just replace the fronts when they wear out! The rears seem to last forever!



I rotate mine every 7500 per the book.



Can't wait to see your truck with it's new wheels. Post some pictures!



Juan

 

[Cattletrkr]

I know some people never rotate their dually tires - they just replace the fronts when they wear out! The rears seem to last forever!

Juan

I rotate the spare in with the fronts. The rears I leave alone or rotate inside and out. Doesn't really do any good, but at least I try. I can't rotate front to back because the rears WEAR OUT SO MUCH FASTER. That's all a thing of the past, hopefully. The new Rickson's should be here tomorrow... gettin' itchy, can't wait. Oo. Oo.



You have to spin the tires on the rims if you don't have 6 the same. Kinda sucks, but so do simulators... :-laf :-laf

 

[crobertson1]

Doug,



What about the custom paint job? Can't wait to see the new wheels.



Craig

 

[JRMora]

The rears I leave alone or rotate inside and out. Doesn't really do any good, but at least I try. I can't rotate front to back because the rears WEAR OUT SO MUCH FASTER. That's all a thing of the past, hopefully.

I didn't think about that, but given that the Goodyear GSA's I have have an asymetric tread design, I would have to rotate left inside rear to right outside rear to keep the tread in the right direction.



My fronts are wearing out faster than the rears, but I'm not running fully loaded a lot. I have been rotating so I am keeping up with the wear. Haven't pulled the spare down - I hope it's still there!



Juan

 

[KCJackson]

I run 6 aluminums (Mopar forged) on my 96 (see the Readers Rigs pics). The problem isn't really the lug studs, there's enough to seat the nut. The problem is actually the hub. The face of the wheel is thicker than the standard steel dually wheel, and on the rear axle, using an inside aluminum will put the outer facing of ythe wheel past the "mounting stop" for the outer wheel. In effect, the inside wheel is hub-centric, but the outside wheel is actually lug-centric. I've had them on for nearly 6 years, and there's been no ill effects, but my dealer techs hate doing rear brake checks because the outer wheel doesn't center itself on the hub when you remount it.



I like the classic 8-hole look of those 17-inch Eagles, but I'll wait and see if someone makes a forged aluminum wheel first on my 05.

 

[Cattletrkr]

My fronts are wearing out faster than the rears,

Juan

Seriously... up until about a week ago, I've NEVER heard of this on ANY RWD vehicle. How the heck is this possible? I know the weight is all on the front when empty, but the power still comes from the rears. I am NOT new to the diesel world and this is the first time I've ever heard of fronts wearing out faster than rears. Are you guy just *bleepin'* with me or what??? :-laf

 

[bmoeller]

Has to do with the brakes on the truck. The fronts tend to do more of the braking. Also, some trucks like to warp rotors. When that happens, it setup a goofy wear pattern on the tires that wears them out faster.



The rear brakes have automatic adjusters, but aren't real good about doing that.

 

[bkaiser]

My '90 D350 and my '03 3500 both eat front tires faster than the rears. Almost twice as fast. This probably is due to the weight on the front axle when the truck is empty (90% of the time for me), and that I drive it through the twisty windies more like a Viper than a dually.

 

[DPKetchum]

Autos and trucks both normally wear front tires much faster then years. Fronts TURN and SCUFF rears follow. Been like that since begining of time. Were you been?

 

[Cattletrkr]

I'm just good I guess

I myself have owned three single tired p/u's and two dually's (both CTD's). ALL of them have wore the rears faster than the fronts. I've never done a burnout and I don't drive with a lead foot, too often :-laf . Dad is now on his second diesel p/u and both of them have SRW. They also wear the rears faster. I have never seen fronts wear faster than rears on anything RWD. I suppose now you're gonna tell me that the fronts on a semi wear out faster??? Maybe I just don't push it around corners enough. Time to start driving it like I stole it. WEEEEEEE!!!!!!



For those of you that drive your dually empty "90%" of the time... WHAT THE HECK DO YOU WANT TO DRIVE A DUALLY FOR??????? Diesel pickups were made to pull/haul. Been that way since the beginning of time. Where ya'all been. :-laf



DPKetchum, on a RWD vehicle, the rears do not just follow. They is the ones doin' all the pushin'. Of course cars wear the fronts out faster, they're FWD, DUH!



Just so everyone takes this the right way--I ain't tryin' to be rude, just havin' a little fun.

 

[DPKetchum]

Never had rears on mine wear any where like fronts or on any auto/truck I've owned. Air PSI is the problem if this happens. I've been in the auto/tire business over 25 years. If proper inflation rears will last almost forever. Front wheel drive,rear wheel drive it dosen't matter. Its called rears over inflated. Pushing dosen't wear tires out. Turning and scrubbing does.

 

[Kennywould]

My '90 D350 and my '03 3500 both eat front tires faster than the rears. Almost twice as fast. This probably is due to the weight on the front axle when the truck is empty (90% of the time for me), and that I drive it through the twisty windies more like a Viper than a dually.

-BK

I'm on my third dually and I definetly wear out the fronts first. I also run those crazy Pa backroads faster than I should, I run with tool boxes and a rack, truck just weighed in at #9400, so I'll see how this one does. There is a difference of driving habits and road types that put more wear on the fronts, JMO, I would think that if you lived in the flats of OH or Mi, your tires might wear differently. Not to pick on any state in particular! Ohh for some of you guy's, you sure can't take your girl out to the barn dance on Fri nite with a loaded dually !!! :-laf



-Ken

 

[phloop]

For those of you that drive your dually empty "90%" of the time... WHAT THE HECK DO YOU WANT TO DRIVE A DUALLY FOR??????? Diesel pickups were made to pull/haul. Been that way since the beginning of time. Where ya'all been. :-laf



snipped the rear tire scuff stuff... .



Just so everyone takes this the right way--I ain't tryin' to be rude, just havin' a little fun.

Hey cow truck



Why do I drive a dually? Because I can. And because it's COOL!



Well, Ok. I'm only going to be able to get one new truck and I choose a dually because after the kids are out of the house, my wife and I are getting a honking big fiver and going camping!!



Oh and because it's cool. :-laf

 

[KCJackson]

For those of you that drive your dually empty "90%" of the time... WHAT THE HECK DO YOU WANT TO DRIVE A DUALLY FOR??????? Diesel pickups were made to pull/haul. Been that way since the beginning of time. Where ya'all been. :-laf



Just so everyone takes this the right way--I ain't tryin' to be rude, just havin' a little fun.

It was October 1978. I just turned 14. The 1979 "new truck" issue of <I>Pickup Van and 4WD</I> magazine just hit the stands (what a great truck mag). In the make/model section, I saw it... a GMC K35 4x4 dually, sitting on a beach, knobby all-terrain tires with that elevated ride height. I was hooked... I promised myself I would own a 4x4 dually. May 24 1996: I was handed the keys to my current truck. The dream had been fulfilled at age 32 1/2. I can't go back to a single-rear-wheel truck, or (yikes) a <B>car</B>.

 

[DPelletier]

Only vehicle I ever had that wore out the rear tires faster than the fronts was my 450hp 442.



Dave

 

[Cattletrkr]

This is fun

I almost can't believe this. I had to call Dad tonight and ask him if I was losing my mind or what. He laughed when he answered and almost couldn't believe I had to ask. EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE HE HAS EVER OWNED EXCEPT FWD HAS WORN THE REARS FASTER. Must be some secret gov't experiment here to test our tire usage patterns. You guys have really got me going on this one. I'm gonna stop at the tire shop tomorrow and get their story.



Kennywould, 9400lb. Really? Is that supposed to be alot? You better be wearing the fronts faster,YOU'VE GOT TWICE THE TIRES IN THE REAR, HELLO



"Hey cow truck"--I've been called worse



"you sure can't take your girl out to the barn dance on Fri nite with a loaded dually !!!"--Some of us have to. God I hope she's not looking over my shoulder... I'd rather take the loaded girl out to the barn dance though...

 

[Kennywould]

Kennywould, 9400lb. Really? Is that supposed to be alot? You better be wearing the fronts faster,YOU'VE GOT TWICE THE TIRES IN THE REAR, HELLO





"you sure can't take your girl out to the barn dance on Fri nite with a loaded dually !!!"--Some of us have to. God I hope she's not looking over my shoulder... I'd rather take the loaded girl out to the barn dance though...

I wan't some of what your smokin! I would rather take the loaded girl to the barn, heck with the dance!



As far as the 9400, I was just trying to say I don't run empty, 9400 is not much weight, but it makes the ride a lot nicer than empty :-laf



-Ken

 

[DPKetchum]

Way over inflated wears rear faster then front. Had a few customers that always did this! Fronts steer and scrub constanly rears follow. Pushin or pulling ain't got nothing do with it. Spinning rears do,loads have a affect. As DPELLETIER says the ONLY thing I've ever wore rears on faster was a DART 340 4 speed I owned and a big block Chevelle years ago. We KNOW why they did! You don't ROTATE tires due to REAR wear its BECAUSE OF FRONT WEAR. Fronts DO all the WORK. Rears are just along for the ride.