New TOYO AT's Tall and skinny and E-rated

[TheBullSlayer]

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View attachment 73574Here's a new set of 285/75R17's on factory alloy's. 33. 8 tall x 11. 2 wide E-rated @ #3970 single. I was hesitant at first because the tread wear on my wifes gasser was 30K. When I walked in Les Schwab, the fella told me Toyo has a 50K warranty and THEY will honor it. I said SLAP um ON, I almost went with the MT's, but I've read there not the best on hard-pack/slick snow. I know these work good in rocky mt states from experiance, just have a feeling my SMARTY will cut that warranty in half,Les Schwab is spendy-but I'm happy with the service, by the way, this has a Lorenze level w/DP rear leafs

 

[seafish]

Looking GOOD.

Those are the tires I've got on order with my local tire guy. Don't yet know how much they'll be, but he is always reasonable.
Hoping to get more then the 24,000 miles that wore out my Michelin AT2, 265/75/17E, which were an EXCELLENT handling, and actually pretty good wearing tire, but still want more then th 24k miles that got.

Also, I love the 3970# load rating AND the extra plys that these Toyos in this size have. They actually DO have one more sidewall ply and one more tread ply then even the Toyo OC/AT in the 285/70/17 E. The extra plys are what give the the extra load capacity, despite also being E rated.

I am also looking to drop my excessive highway RPM with this larger diameter tire.
Though I am NOT necessarily expecting an MPG increse, cause these puppies are HEAVY. They weigh in at 67# each, as opposed to the 265/70/17 E which weigh in at 39#.

Here is a link to specs on ALL of the Toyo Open Country AT sizes available. The last page has the larger "specialty sizes" which include your tire--

http://marktg.toyotires.com/file/18971.pdf

PS--what pressure are you running front and back?? Are you going to play with differnt pressures, or is it perfect where its at now??

 

[TheBullSlayer]

They came home with 60psi in them and feel fine, I can tell a BIG diff in the sidewall FLEX-there isnt any. The BFG 285 AT's I pulled off wer'nt as rigid feeling, I will not buy BFG's any more (just a note) even with good rotation, they scrubed off pretty quick. I'm open to any suggestion's for front vs rear inflation--I'm sure the Bumper and winch and engine put quite a bit on that frt axel, Thanks for any imput

 

[GHarman]

You will definitely see a wear pattern in a short time. With no load in the bed, it is easy to run your rear tires overinflated. Drive them on pavement and look at the contact pattern. You can bring the pressure down to the point where road contact is all the way across the tire. This is just the beginning. Then run them a few hundred miles to check if you need to get less contact in the center of the tire. This is the procedure I follow on my old trucks. I am not familiar with the suspension requirements on the new trucks, however, it is obvious that the load in an empty truck is in the front. The wider the tire the quicker you will notice issues with alignment and tire pressure. You just have to remember to increase the tire pressure before carrying a load any distance

11. 2" is really a wide tire. I like the diameter. My old 235/85R-16s are only 7" wide, and 32" tall. The tires on "New Ugly" are 8" wide and I can feel the difference. Now a 33. 8" tall X 7" wide tire would be a real snow cutterOo. . Thanks fer listening to my ramblings. GregH

 

[seafish]

GHarman, I also look for even contact and wear across the tread in both front and back tires, I was looking for a starting point for the Toyos. I ran 65 psi in all tires, loaded or unkloaded (though I do have a caravan camper shell) on my Michelin 265/70/17 E and rotated only every 8000 miles or so, and have worb them down evenly in only 24k miles.

BullSlayer, thanks for the info and pics.

 

[BILLVO]

These are a real popular tire in my area and will be the next tire to go on my 05. Lots of company fleets are running nothing but these here also. Company who sells them will sipe the center 3 ribs if you want and still give a full warranty and claim longer wear and milage which I have also seen from siping tires in the past also. Last set of 285 -75-16 BFG at's got me120k miles from having them siped at new. Ran them on 3 pickups.

 

[brods]

Page A1 in the following PDF is the manufacturer's Load Inflation table for the Open Country A/T. http://cache.toyotires.com/sites/default/files/loadinflationtable.pdf

 

[JJPage]

I really like my Toyo AT's.



I did have the left rear tire warrantied, It was out of round and caused quite a bounce in my ride. Les Schwab replaced it, no problem.



This is my second set, the first set were 325/60/18, they provided a softer ride than this new set, but they did not drive as nice, they seemed to grab every rut or groove in the road. They also slopped up the whole side of my truck in foul weather, this new set pretty much keeps the spray within the fender wells.

 

[MVenditti]

To save hundreds of miles of trial and error to get good traction and wear front and rear find a flat level surface and chalk straight line across tread. Drive straight and check where chalk wears first. In middle, overinflated etc. Add or drop 2 pounds at a time till you get even wear. Can do with load to get loaded pressures.

 

[AH64ID]

Good deal... The Toyo is a good tire, but fast wearing. . My dad got 16K, and 24K out of his 2 sets of 265's, but they were bought at schwab with the 50K warranty. I am looking like I will be lucky to get 35K out of my 285's.

 

[GHarman]

To save hundreds of miles of trial and error to get good traction and wear front and rear find a flat level surface and chalk straight line across tread. Drive straight and check where chalk wears first. In middle, overinflated etc. Add or drop 2 pounds at a time till you get even wear. Can do with load to get loaded pressures.

Thats a GREAT, IDEA! I'll use it! It seems that would work much quicker. The issue I have to work with is that I have to drive for miles to hit a flat paved area. Everything else is dirt! Thanks! GregH

 

[georgej]

Double check country of manufacture, some of the new Toyos are made in china :{ They might be OK but I wont buy 'em. .

 

[AH64ID]

Thats a GREAT, IDEA! I'll use it! It seems that would work much quicker. The issue I have to work with is that I have to drive for miles to hit a flat paved area. Everything else is dirt! Thanks! GregH

If you do a lot of dirt to pavement transition driving then you're setup for the "chalk" method already, just stop after about 20 feet of pavement driving and look at the tire, if its over-inflated the outer edge will still have dust on it.



My 285/70's take about 40psi in the rear to run flat when empty and about 60 up front.

 

[GHarman]

Yep, I do pay attention to the tires in the way you describe. However, I think a parking lot and the chalk would avoid a loggin' truck comin' around the bend in your lane:-laf GregH

 

[MoparBob]

I am curious... how well have these tires worn so far?

 

[Regcabguy]

I'm going to get about 36,000 on mine which I bought used w/20,000 from a friend. They had zero rotation/rebalance before I adopted them. Killer,strong tire,but unavailable apparently for another 45 days according to our local distributor here. I may try the Dura Grapplers next time.

 

[JJPage]

Just a note, I ended up taking the tires back to Les Schwab, another one out of round, and I just could not handle the rough ride. Making all sorts of new rattles and squeaks in my truck. Went with a set of MT's... .

 

[MVenditti]

You will definitely see a wear pattern in a short time. With no load in the bed, it is easy to run your rear tires overinflated. Drive them on pavement and look at the contact pattern. You can bring the pressure down to the point where road contact is all the way across the tire. This is just the beginning. Then run them a few hundred miles to check if you need to get less contact in the center of the tire. This is the procedure I follow on my old trucks. I am not familiar with the suspension requirements on the new trucks, however, it is obvious that the load in an empty truck is in the front. The wider the tire the quicker you will notice issues with alignment and tire pressure. You just have to remember to increase the tire pressure before carrying a load any distance

11. 2" is really a wide tire. I like the diameter. My old 235/85R-16s are only 7" wide, and 32" tall. The tires on "New Ugly" are 8" wide and I can feel the difference. Now a 33. 8" tall X 7" wide tire would be a real snow cutterOo. . Thanks fer listening to my ramblings. GregH

A quicker less wear way to get pressure right is a chalk line across tires and drive couple hundred feet on straight flat asphalt. Adjust couple pounds at a time till you get even wear of chalk line.

 

[Regcabguy]

Just a note, I ended up taking the tires back to Les Schwab, another one out of round, and I just could not handle the rough ride. Making all sorts of new rattles and squeaks in my truck. Went with a set of MT's... .

The softer ride of the MT's might be do to the 600# lower weight capacity over the AT's in that size. With my camper on all the time,I run 55 psi. Anything over that and they ride like rocks. Stupid strong tire. This is the first post I've read about out of roundness on their tires.

 

[JJPage]

The softer ride of the MT's might be do to the 600# lower weight capacity over the AT's in that size. With my camper on all the time,I run 55 psi. Anything over that and they ride like rocks. Stupid strong tire. This is the first post I've read about out of roundness on their tires.

I was surprised also, the tires were 285/75/18's. The Les Schwab manager ran through several tires of that size before he could find 4 that were acceptable to me(he put them on a spin balancer and let me observe).



My 325/60/18 AT's did not ride that rough.