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I have an 05 4dr and I decided that it needed EGT & Boost gages so I can monitor critical engine performance. Sounds basic enough; I have installed gages in most of my other vehicles and never had any trouble(like I have this time). Most people are intimidated by drilling holes in manifolds and firewalls, but not me. I had both off, drilled-tapped and reinstalled in less than one hour. The problem occured when I pulled the thermocouple harness and boost line through the firewall. I hate to drill holes that are not needed; I looked under the dash for an existing hole and decided that the grommet occupied by the hood release cable would suit my needs. Just as in my other projects, I reached for a short piece of welding rod; it's rigid enough to skirt alongside the hood release cable, but flexible enough to bend and pull out the front side of the firewall. Sounds great in theory. Before I go any further, I will admit foregoing one of the first steps of the install; DISCONNECT THE BATTERY(IES) before beginning (the ignition was off, aint that good enuff???). That being said, I carefully inspected the area prior to pulling the bundle through the firewall and felt that there was plenty of clearance and could see nothing that would interfere. I began pulling the bundle with minimal effort and the pre-crimped ends on the thermocouple harness and boost line came through with no problem; HOWEVER, I accidentally made contact with the anti-skid pump and the welding rod grounded briefly. How on earth could this happen? I immediately returned under the dash and looked for what I had touched that had power, but I could not find anything. I have now lost several items that somewhat important: Speedo, HVAC panel is dead (Blower still works) cruise control and back-up lights. I have the factory service manual and cannot find a common thread among these items. All fuses in the PCM are good, I checked them with an ohm meter. I don't want to go to Dodge and admit my stupidity until I have to. I am hoping that there's a guru here that can give me some ideas. I know I'm the only one dumb enough to have done this assinine stunt. Thanks in advance for any help.



J. Garrett IV

c130ife



p. s. feel free to laugh; I can now - my therapist said it's good for the soul

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They talk about some "TIPM" around here. Some module that needs to be reset by the dealer. Maybe do a search for TIPM and see if that may control the items that are not working.
 
As mentioned... it doesn't take a newbie to have problems. While installing my oil by-pass I used SS lines. I wasn't watching what I was doing and shorted the SS line against feed from the battery to the fuse box. Needless to say, the 4th of July came early :eek: Luckily, it only melted the hose and didn't short anything. That was just to help make you fell better about what you did :)

Since you checked all the fused and they're good... . all I could think of is when you pulled the stuff through the firewall, you may have pulled a ground wire loose. That or I guess it's possible you pulled a connector apart under the dash just enough to not make contact.

Sorry i couldn't be more help... good luck!
 
Don't think the 05 has the TIPM or whtever it is. Does your truck have the little fuse panel at the left end of the dash? bg
 
I might be full of carp,but I think all the 3rd gens have a tipm module. Have you done the basic, disconnect the batteries for a while and tried again? This may or may not do you any good. I had a plow harness intalled and afterwards, I had no high beams, or interior lights or turn signals. I took it to the dealer and they reset the tipm and everything worked fine. Give them a shot if all else fails. Have you looked at all of the big fuses under the hood?
 
Boy,



You guys sure know how to welcome newbies!!! thanks for all the advice. I'm not sure which fuse panel you're refering to on the left side of the dash. If you could tell me exactly where to look, I'll give it a shot. There is a blue box with two heat-sinks on it just behind the left-side dash cover. Anyway, I have disconnected the battery and cleared all codes except 500 - Speed Sensor inop (hence no Speedo or CC) I also have brake and anti-skid lights illuminated constantly, but I don't show any code(s) that relate to said system. I'll take it by the dealer one day this week and let them have a good laugh (and maybe a bigger bank-roll depending on the damage. ) Back to completing the install; and YES - I WILL DISCONNECT THE BATTERY BEFORE MESSING WITH ANY MORE WIRES. Just to think, my boss says I'm un-trainable. What does he know?????? Thanks again for all the replies so far. I'll keep trying



J. Garrett IV

c130ife
 
John,



Don't feel stupid, I bought an iPod adapter for my factory radio from BestBuy and plugged it in and my Brake/Antilock lights came on. I also had no speedo /instrument operability. The panel gave me a No Bus message.



So, needless to say, I unhooked the iPod adapter and took it back.



I unhooked both batteries and left them unhooked for a couple hours.



Brake light still on, but went off after several key cycles.



Still had to take to the dealer for a recurring instrument glitch, they said that they reset the computer module and all is well. No probs since then.



Regards.



Kevin C.



PS: How are things in the Flight Engineer section?
 
Not to insult your intelligence, but did you check both fuse boxes? (Under the hood and under the dash).



I was working on my friends 05 Durango when he lost power to the HVAC panel... turned out to be a 10 AMP fuse under the dash.
 
Boy,



You guys sure know how to welcome newbies!!! thanks for all the advice. I'm not sure which fuse panel you're refering to on the left side of the dash. If you could tell me exactly where to look, I'll give it a shot.

J. Garrett IV

c130ife

The box I'm talking about is at the left end of dash panel, you have to have the driver side door open to see it. My 99 had it but the 06 does not. bg
 
GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!



I finished installing both gages and they work, and I can see them at night!!!! It's about time something went right with my weekend!!!. You guys amaze me; everyone is willing to admit mistakes to help others. I am most appreciative. I am going to see if Dodge can reset the IPM; after that, I'm not sure what I'll do. I can't thank everyone enough for all the input to help ease my suffering. I can't relate the problems I inherited with this truck in the non-engine forum, but I will relate them elsewhere later. It has truly been a rough road. You guys are among the greatest. Please keep the info coming. It's good to know that others have assumed the same things that I did. (no offense, please)



Thanks once again



J. Garrett IV

c130ife
 
WELL-------



Guess I didn't check ALL THE FUSES!!!!! Pays to know someone who works@ a dealership. He went right to the fuse (#3 - 30 amp for those interested) and showed it to me; he didn't even have to look and see if it was blown. That being said, the case of Bud Light I gave him for his time was much cheaper than the $80+ a dealership would have charged. So, problem solved, and lesson learned; this ain't a 75 Dodge, it's an '05. Just remember computerization. Thanks again everyone



J. Garrett IV

c130ife
 
WELL-------



Guess I didn't check ALL THE FUSES!!!!! Pays to know someone who works@ a dealership. He went right to the fuse (#3 - 30 amp for those interested) and showed it to me; he didn't even have to look and see if it was blown. That being said, the case of Bud Light I gave him for his time was much cheaper than the $80+ a dealership would have charged. So, problem solved, and lesson learned; this ain't a 75 Dodge, it's an '05. Just remember computerization. Thanks again everyone



J. Garrett IV

c130ife
I'm doing my gauges this weekend. Where is fuse #3? Shiner Bock OK? :)
 
When you open the fuse cover in the engine compartment, it is the top row, pink 30 amp fusible link. Let me know how the install goes.



J. Garrett IV
 
I would be led to recon that if i had a dollar for every mistake made with a vehicle, well it would be a very nice sum.
 
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