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Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Noise Control

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Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) broken ecm

2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Strange sound

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Has anyone else out there in Cummins-land noticed a change in combustion noise that occurs under cruise conditions? Very soon after I bought my truck I noticed that after about five minutes running time following my most recent gear shift, the high frequency combustion noise coming from the engine would mute, greatly reducing the sound pressure in the cab. (The first time I noticed this, it seemed like my ears had popped!)



Having once been an engineer at Cummins, I had seen an ECU parameter called Noise Control, but had never actually known what it was. So putting 2 and 2 together, I concluded that Noise Control was a function that would retard injection timing after a defined period of either no shifting of gears or nearly constant accelerator pedal position.



OK, so fast-forward 3 years, to when I finally get around to putting boost and EGT gages in my truck. Now I get to directly observe the effect of Noise Control when it activates. During my normal Interstate cruise setting of 77mph, boost runs at ~5psi and EGT runs ~700F on flat terrain with an empty truck. Then when Noise Control kicks in, boost increases to ~7psi, and EGT goes to ~775F. Neat, eh? I attribute the higher boost and EGT to late burning that puts more energy into the exhaust manifold, causing to the turbo to speed up, increasing boost, but not increasing power. Also, I have noticed that Noise Control is not affected by the program that is loaded from my Superchips tuner (from Stock to High Performance).



While I do appreciate the lower cab noise that this function gives on a long trip, I am wondering how much of a fuel economy penalty the retarded injection timing represents. Is anybody out there familiar with the workings of Noise Control, and if any of the performance modules available suppress it? I'm thinking if it can be suppressed, the fuel economy benefit would be substantial.



Thanks for your time,



Andy Harman
 
Hi Andy, and welcome!



That's a fascinating theory you have there. I never heard of Noise Control as an ECU parameter, not common enough knowledge I guess. I rarely drive with cruise control, but I have heard something, like a light fluttering. A definite change in tone that I refer to, probably incorrectly, as "valve float". It seems to happen when the throttle is steady and the engine load is nil. That is to say, kind of a no-man's land between accelerating and coasting. My layman's theory is that the valves are just along for the ride, not really being driven by compression. The thing is, this is a transient state because you can't stay in limbo between accelerating and coasting for more than a moment.



It's kind of a weird sound, but not bad, so I just accept it as part of the Cummins melody.



Cheers,

Neil
 
That is to say, kind of a no-man's land between accelerating and coasting. My layman's theory is that the valves are just along for the ride, not really being driven by compression. The thing is, this is a transient state because you can't stay in limbo between accelerating and coasting for more than a moment.



It's kind of a weird sound, but not bad, so I just accept it as part of the Cummins melody.



I noticed that sound also Boondocker..... :eek:



Hi Andy, and welcome! :)



Interesting Andy, you may be right. I would have sworn that the engine does quiet down. I had thought that I was just becoming accustom to the sounds. I have never noticed the EGT or boost changes, but I have not really looked for them either.



Jim
 
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