NRA Fighting to protect the FIRST Amendment

[Sled Puller]

Well, we always said the guns were not the only thing we were fighting for.



http://www.nraila.org/NewsCenter.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=1495



Go get them!

 

[midnight1black]

NRA Fighting to protect

Oo. Oh Ya. I give them my $ money to keep up the rights to keep my guns. .

 

[RottnDogue]

Yes NRA gets my Money too.....

 

[Henderson]

NRA

I think the NRA is the only reason we can still keep guns. So when ever I can i send them a little. But I think they could save a little money buy not sending me so much junk mail looking for donations.

 

[willyslover]

"But I think they could save a little money buy not sending me so much junk mail looking for donations. "... Boy that is the truth... way to much junk mail form them.

 

[Sled Puller]

I sent them a letter once that said chill on the junk mail, save the money, they are only getting X$ from me a year, and that was it.



They said sorry, but the return cash from every mailing makes it worth it.



It is a huge expense, I know that.

Gene

 

[Redneck Toadstomper]

I've posted this before under another topic. "I love my country but my government worries me -A LOT!!!" As long as we continue to elect the trash to represent us that we do, we will get exactly what we deserve. The liberal use of recall petitions needs to be used to get our elected official's attention. What do you think?

 

[Deezul1]

I dont always agree with the NRA but without them our guns are gone and so is freedom so they get a big attaboy and some money.

 

[mdlowry]

Originally posted by Sled Puller

Well, we always said the guns were not the only thing we were fighting for.



http://www.nraila.org/NewsCenter.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=1495



Go get them!

No, guns aren't the only thing were fighting for. I would like to see the NRA fight for gun rights to begin with though. The NRA has been compromising our gun rights since 1934 (see here--and they were actually proud of their support of NFA '34 and GCA '68!).



Even today, the NRA is still a shooting sports organization. They are NOT a gun rights organization! The NRA has occationally complained that some of the laws are unconstitutional, but they have done little if anything to help correct that (ie legal action). In fact, they are supporting Project Exile which calls for a strict enforcement of ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL gun laws and even adds extra penalties (how many here have ever unknowingly broken one of these gun laws?).



I also take exception to the NRA's view of carring a gun. . . . the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The NRA supports registration of gun owners who desire to carry a gun outside of the home. If I have a right, and the government demand that I ask their permission to excercise that right, I no longer have that right. It is now a privilage. In cases where "Vermont carry" has been brought up, the NRA has opposed it (see here).

Originally posted by Deezul 1

I dont always agree with the NRA but without them our guns are gone and so is freedom so they get a big attaboy and some money.

Deezul1,

As I mentioned above, even with the NRA our guns are going. The NRA has a long history of compromise.



I expect I'll get some heat for this post. I also think that most people don't take a look at their basic beliefs often enough. It has been said enought that the NRA is a pro-gun organization that most people have come to accept this as a fact. Please take another look.



mdlowry

Life member GOA

 

[Sled Puller]

No flames here!



You have every right to disagree with what they are doing, or how they are doing it.

I think they are doing a better job lobbying than any other org. at the moment though.



GOA is a good org. , I may join them in the future. I would like to see them go after old laws and get the useless ones off the books.

 

[The patriot]

I agree with mdlowry.

I've heard the word "comprimise" used all to often in reference to gun laws, most of the time with the NRA's blessing.

I'm only public school educated, but I think "comprimise" means you give away something, and GET SOMETHING IN RETURN!!

When it comes to gun laws, it means how far their tool will be inserted into the gun owners rectum. To me, half way or all the way, not too much different.

Pound for pound, JPFO kicks a$$, however they lack the support and numbers ($$$ too) the NRA has.

http://www.jpfo.org/



Eric



PS Rights are just that. A RIGHT!! Just the fact of it being a right means it cannot be comprimised or tampered with. Theyre God given!!

Something that's a right, but then becomes regulated, is no longer a right, it's a privalige bestowed unto you by the great all knowing all caring govt.

JM . 02

 

[Jumbo Jet]

mdlowry's quote: The NRA supports registration of gun owners who desire to carry a gun outside of the home.



I read the magazines and have been a member for years. I must be duped by something because registration is the one thing that I see NRA fighting the most.



I have a CCW permit. They have fought the retention of the records involved with obtaining a CCW everywhere that I have seen and read.

 

[The patriot]

Originally posted by Jumbo Jet

I have a CCW permit. They have fought the retention of the records involved with obtaining a CCW everywhere that I have seen and read.

I dont understand.

Is the Govt retaining records of legal law abiding gun owners supposed to be a good thing?

Please explain... .

Eric

 

[mdlowry]

Originally posted by Jumbo Jet

mdlowry's quote: The NRA supports registration of gun owners who desire to carry a gun outside of the home.



I read the magazines and have been a member for years. I must be duped by something because registration is the one thing that I see NRA fighting the most.



I have a CCW permit. They have fought the retention of the records involved with obtaining a CCW everywhere that I have seen and read.

The NRA opposes registration of guns and gun owners in general. For some reason they are a strong advocate for licensing and registration of gun owners who wish to carry (could it be because almost all the CCW instructors are NRA instructors?). IMO, these are the people who would be more likely to be concerned about their (loss of) rights and would be the strongest opposition to "gun control" (people control) or bans.



I'm not sure what you mean by the NRA fighting the retention of records for CCW permits. Do you mean that the NRA opposes the state from keeping records of the people it licenses to carry? I know that the states link their CCW database to the drivers liscenses. I doubt that the state will get rid of this information and just trust it subjects (ie not to counterfit).



It's interesting when the subject of CCW permits comes up the state of Vermont is hardly ever mentioned. In Vermont, the people have a right to bear arms. This means that in Vermont any person can carry a gun either openly or concealed without the need for any permission from the government. Curious how VT also has one of the lowest crime rates in the nation too (48th IIRC).