NV5600 vs. NV4500 Tran. Fluid

[TomB]

I have read all the archives on the previous discussions of the various recommended transmission fluids for the NV4500, but have seen little factual information pertaining to the NV5600. Should I stay with the recommended Texaco STF 1878 and/or Mopar 4874464, or is the Castrol Syntorq or Amsoil 2000 the way to go? GL-4 or GL-5? What are you all using and why?

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2000 Qc LWB ETC 6Sp 3:54 LSD, + all the options except leather, BD Stage ll Injectors,Edge EZ, Psychotty& K&N,
BD E-Brake with Shifter Control, ISSPRO EGT and Boost Gauges, Transfer Flow 50 Gal. Alum. Fuel Tank, Line X
16K Hijacker Double Rocker, Pulling a 35Ft. triple slide Spinnaker 5vr.
1996 Viper GTS
Suzuki DRZ400
1100 Yamaha Cruiser

 

[Alan Reagan]

Tom, On the 5600 the syncronizers require the fomulation of the Texaco lube. You should stick with it.

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2001 HO 6 spd 2500, 4. 10 LSD, Towing Package, Electric Brakes, SPA EGT/Boost Gauges, Fog Lights, Real Backup Lights, Molded Running Boards

 

[Dane]

I'm using the Texaco fluid.

1) No one else makes any "approved" fluid.
2) I got 5 gallons from the local Texaco rep for $2. 18 a quart.
3) I don't want any lip from the dealier if I need any waranty work done.
4) The Texaco lube is probably as good as anything out there for keeping the transmission running as long as the Cummins.

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2001 HO 6 speed Regular Cab SLT 4x4 3. 54 anti spin 2500. Used for the daily grind and sneaking away to some secret Baja beaches toting a cabover

 

[TomB]

Called the local Dodge dealer and got a price on the Mopar #4874464 transmission fluid; $11. 56/Qt. Then I called the Texaco distributor in the San Diego area, and guess what? They have NEVER heard of Texaco STF 1874, which is listed on the side of my NV5600 as the authorized replacement fluid. They looked in every catalogue and computer list they had and could not find this product! Where are you guy's getting this stuff? Is it listed under some other name or number? Help me out on this one please!! Is it available mail order? No listing on the official Texaco web site either that matches this name or number.

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2000 Qc LWB ETC 6Sp 3:54 LSD, + all the options except leather, BD Stage ll Injectors,Edge EZ, Psychotty& K&N,
BD E-Brake with Shifter Control, ISSPRO EGT and Boost Gauges, Transfer Flow 50 Gal. Alum. Fuel Tank, Line X
16K Hijacker Double Rocker, Pulling a 35Ft. triple slide Spinnaker 5vr.
1996 Viper GTS
Suzuki DRZ400
1100 Yamaha Cruiser

 

[Dane]

I dunno why they couldn't find it. Have them look again for:
"Synchromesh Transmission fluid" Code - 1874 MTX Fluid

Maybe cross reference by -
GM Spec #9985648
Mopar Part #4761526
GM part # 12345349
Chrysler spec #MS-9924

Try (800) 782-7852 for a dist near you.

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2001 HO 6 speed Regular Cab SLT 4x4 3. 54 anti spin 2500. Used for the daily grind and sneaking away to some secret Baja beaches toting a cabover

 

[_Hyde]

I've looked into getting some of the 5600 lube and met with some difficulty as well. The first Texaco distributor I called, and the only one at this point, hadn't heard of it didn't know of it blah, blah, blah. I told him the number, what its called, what its used for and that I saw it on the Texaco web site at http://thegenesisnetwork. equilon.com/genesis/prodinfopdf/out/SYNCHROMESH%20TRANSMISSION%20FLUID.pdf He said he'd look in some catalogs and call me back. When he did he told me that he could get it but didn't have it in stock. After a few days he calls back and tells me that they quit making it. I would have argued the point but I've dealt with these guys in the past. They carry other petrol products beside Texaco, like Delo etc. He'd never heard of Rotella. So now I think I'm best off looking elsewhere. I guess I'll continue my quest here in Dallas to try and find the ever elusive Texaco 1874.

Darren


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2001. 5 2500 4X4 SLT, ETH/DEE, 275s, Amsoil Bypass Filtration, Mag-Hytec w/Amsoil, Walker 21468, Passenger Side Grab Handle That DC No Longer Installs as of 7-00, Michael Brolin CB Mount, 20K@031201, ICQ: 103247365, IM: xxtreme223

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[merryman]

Even in my little town (17,000-----well actually I live in a town of 1,000, 55 miles from the CITY of 17,000), the texaco dist. not only know immediately what I was talking about but had it in stock. His price per gallon in a 5 gallon container, was allmost exactly the DC price per quart.

Vaughn

 

[_Hyde]

hey merryman, you think your lube guy would UPS me some? I've got a bad taste in my mouth trying to find that stuff and am thinking of taking the easy way out.

Darren


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2001. 5 2500 4X4 SLT, ETH/DEE, 275s, Amsoil Bypass Filtration, Mag-Hytec w/Amsoil, Walker 21468, Passenger Side Grab Handle That DC No Longer Installs as of 7-00, Michael Brolin CB Mount, 20K@031201, ICQ: 103247365, IM: xxtreme223

 

[Sled Puller]

Don't use the 90 wt gear lubes.
Try the Amsoil Series 3000 5W-30 Diesel Engine oil.
The warranty will be fine, and the Amsoil warranty will pick up where the factory one leaves off.
Gene

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1997 Cummins Dodge 4x4 Bombed & Amsoiled. Amsoil Premiere Direct Jobber, Member of: NRA Business Alliance, GLTDR, WANTED: Wrecked Dodges.
www.awdist.com

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

There was a couple recent posts of guys using the Amsoil 2000 series 5W30 diesel oil and experienced improved shifting. And one post where someone had more trouble shifting after trying it. It would be interesting to put the Syntorq through a battery of tests & compare it to the Amsoil. My only concern with the Amsoil is whether it would have the ability to mainain an oil film with the high loading pressures on the gear teeth, a requirement of gear oil.

Also check out this post from Products Forum

Vaughn


[This message has been edited by Vaughn MacKenzie (edited 03-18-2001). ]

 

[amsoilman]

TomB,
The NV4500 transmission requires a (GL)Gear Lube like a 75W-90, where as the NV5600 requires a 5W-30 Motor oil as the lubricant.

Wayne

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94'SLT 4X4 AT/White in color. Factory Tow Hooks & Running Boards. Amsoil By-Pass filter, Amsoil Air cleaner,and all fluids are Amsoil. Optima "Red Top" batteries.
BD exhaust Brake, BD Torque Lock, BD Torque Converter, Dr. Performance Stage II Injection Pump. Mag-Hytec Diff Cover,Mag-Hytec Transmission Pan, Isspro Pyro, Boost,Oil temp Gauges mounted in 3 Gauge post mount. One gauge monitors Engine Oil, Trans, Diff. Temps.
Wayne Owen

 

[Pete Peterson]

TomB. I like the $11. 56 a quart price, and I will check with my dealer in the morning!!
One problem I see is that the part number you are using; 484464 is not the same as what
Dane posted; 4761526. Anybody know why thereis a difference?????? Thanx, Pete

 

[TomB]

Pete: That is the Mopar number I have (484464) that is posted on the transmission housing. I gave that number to the Dodge parts counter man and he found the fluid in his computer by that number. I can't explain the discrepancy. Maybe is can be acessed by both numbers. I still have not been able to find the Texaco stuff. The local distributors are still checking! Hey Dane - Can I get the same fluid from my local GM dealer?

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2000 Qc LWB ETC 6Sp 3:54 LSD, + all the options except leather, BD Stage ll Injectors,Edge EZ, Psychotty& K&N,
BD E-Brake with Shifter Control, ISSPRO EGT and Boost Gauges, Transfer Flow 50 Gal. Alum. Fuel Tank, Line X
16K Hijacker Double Rocker, Pulling a 35Ft. triple slide Spinnaker 5vr.
1996 Viper GTS
Suzuki DRZ400
1100 Yamaha Cruiser

 

[Pete Peterson]

Thanks Tom, I believe that GM's is the same stuff. The price I was told was about $25. 00 for a quart so I hope my dealers price is the same as yours. I had my transmission replaced at 500 miles for the going to 4th grind when cold. New transmission is great but I want to change the fluid now that I have a couple thousand miles on it... ... Pete

 

[JJW_ND]

I recently tested (oil analysis) the Texaco NVG5600 fluid and it is not a motor oil but a true transmision fluid with 30wt properties. Kinda like an Amsoil Series 2000 30wt (If it existed). It was in a NVG4500 and it shifted poorly. I love what Amsoils Series 2000 75W90 does in a NVG4500 but would hesitate to put the S3K 5w30 engine oil in a 5600. It is great engine oil (I use it and have tested it many times) but not sure of its transmission qualities. Time will tell.

jjw
ND

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[Shelby Griggs]

I paid $10. 16 a quart for the GM brand in March, 2000, the last time I bought some for the Grand Am. According to all I have read, the GM, Texaco and DC stuff is all the same, I would bet all made by Texaco.

Shelby

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2001. 5 2500 QC LB 4WD, ETH (Built 09-10-00), DEE, 3. 54 gears, Laramie SLT, Camper Special, Trailer Tow, Travel Convenience Group, Power Driver Seat, Alarm System, Remote Keyless Entry, Fog Lamps, Cab Clearance Lamps, HD Transfer Case, Bright White with a Gray Interior. Built 09-15-00, took delivery on 10-06-00, 7745 miles as of 03-02-01. Custom aluminum work body / flat bed. Coming soon: E-Brake and gauges.