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Last Friday my wife hit a left turner, he could have been White, Black, Asian, Native American or "Other". The person was linguistically challenged until the arrival of the police, then he began to insist that the "crazy lady turned into my parked car". Now we discover that the person was not insured, had no license and had stolen the car from his uncle. The police did nothing but take a report and convince me not to gently but firmly massage this guys face.



Moms, (White) but could have been Black, Latin, Asian, Native American or "Other", 4 Runner is considered totaled even though the damage is remote to the center of the front and low down, no frame damage, radiator in fan is the worst of it. Does anybody know how to slam an insurance company to honesty rather than allowing their monetary gain run/ruin my economy?



Mike
 
I believe the Insurance company by law has to settle the case within a specifed time. you dont have to except a unrealistic settlement. Find a equivelent vehicle if possible thats for sale and then they have to pay somewhere close to that figure minus the deductible. If you hold out they will eventually come around because time is their enemy. They will tell you its worth $xxxx. 00 and you will disagree and then tell them if thats what its worth find one like yours for that and buy it for you.

Good Luck
 
Mark and Patriot, We do experience favoritism, censor, and numerous other nonsense here, IMO, however the info here and the folks are what keeps me here. 35 bucks to be told "if you don't like it we will give you your money back", oh well. It just seems kind of childish, "Im not gonna be your friend".



I am told by "them" that they did not find my post racist, but it went away regardless... . lots of words not much sense. . IMO.



"They" can simply state, in print, "the opinions expressed here do not in any way represent those of the owners/management", and they are in the clear, rather than having to ask for "hall monitors" that often cause ill feelings.





This is all my opinion and I would appreciate being allowed to state it in a free manner. Thank you.



Mike



Thank you Deezul, we will push for that.
 
Mike, I could bore you with facts on how that accident would have been handled here, but that won't help you much. Get the Police report with the drivers info. Check the Police report for 'contribtuing circumstances' and see if the officer placed blame on the other driver. Either way, go to the municipality that the collision occurred within and have your wife sign a M. V. summons against the driver for which ever fits... Failure to yield, careless driving, etc. Advise your insurance company that your wife has filed a MV complaint and that a court trial is pending. If your wife wins the trial, which is going to come down to a simple he said/she said arguement, your insurance company should take note of the courts decision. Are you insured for a uninsured motorist collision ??? If you can place blame on the other driver and he is uninsured, that aspect of your insurance should then kick in.



I don't know the laws in your state, but the above will work in NJ. Hope this helps, sorry to hear !!!



Scott W.
 
Scott, I heard that (at least here in NJ) the first person on the accident report is (at least in the LEO's opinion) in the right?

How much truth is there to this?



Eric
 
Eric, that is the correct way to write the report if blame can only be placed on one driver. That being said, I have seen reports written, especially by new officers, that have the driver at fault as V. 1 and the faultless driver as V. 2. In theory, and based on what I have been taught, the driver in error should always be V. 2 on the report.



The best way to read the accident report is not by the narrative alone, always check to see what the officer entered as 'Contributing Circumstances'. On the uniform accident report that all LEO's use in NJ, these entries are made by placing the correct corresponding code in two of the boxes that run down the side of the report. That is why you should always ask for a cover sheet, which explains each of the codes in the boxes, when you pick up a completed accident report. From what I understand, the insurance companies typically use the codes that the officer entered as the contributing circumstances to judge who is at fault.



Not too long ago, maybe about 7 years past, we were taught that the accident report is just that, a simple report. That's not the case anymore. Every accident is now considered an investigation and we are REQUIRED to place blame on one ( or both if it's the case) for every collision we investigate. If we can determine fault, we MUST list the fault in the narrative of the report as well as in the appropiate contributing circumstances boxes. Obviously, some accidents are not driver error, such as collisons with deer/bear/domestic animals. These should list under the contributing circumstances 'Animals Actions' as the cause of the accident.



Typically, in the narrative of the report you will see 'Driver of V. 1 stated/ Driver of V. 2 stated". This means zero to the insurance co. s. A complete accident report ( in NJ) that places blame on either or both drivers will have included in the narrative " Police investigation at the scene determined the cause of the accident to be ... . ". If one of the drivers were at fault or both, the narrative should clearly indicate what, in the officers opinion, caused the accident.



The key word being opinion. If the cop is new or not skilled at writting accident reports, the report maybe in error. You still have recourse though. You can ( again here in NJ) go to a local PD and complete a 'late accident report', in which you write the same report as the officer, but list the way you believe the accident occurred. This form is then forwarded to the State. Honestly, I don't think it holds much water though. Basically, you are held to the opinion of the officers report.



Fortunately, most cops do their best to complete the report correctly, in my experience. Personally, I issue a summons to the driver at fault, as long as I know that I can convey my opinion with facts while in a courtroom setting. This makes it a no brainer for the insurance co. 's and greatly helps the driver that was not at fault. Sorry for the long post ;) .



Scott W.
 
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Still trying to figure out what race has to do with this. Theres plenty of people w/o insurance from every color.
 
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Shortshift, I see you are in So. Cal. Yes, anybody can have no insurance, anybody can be a terrorist, but this is the real world and you know this is not the case.



This "free thinking", or whatever it is that your post reflects allows good, hard working people to fall victim to a variety of danger and/or losses. "9/11" never would have happened if we, America, was realistic rather than politically correct.



**This post is my opinion and in no way is the opinion of the TDR or its Owners, managers or others.



Mike
 
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