O.K so what else can theese things burn?

[ToolManTimTaylor]

For a while people freaked at the thought of paying 2. 90 a gallon for pure wessen vegitable oil and well guess what TADA it's quickly approaching the break even point. What else in pure form can theese things burn? Sunflower ,soy,star anise,wallnut... etc. I was looking @ Bulk oil sites and man Vegitable oil is trading at wicked verocity and bulk carriers are going nuts. We know that theese trucks can run on chocolate milk :-laf , motor oil (Used or new) Beer , mineral oil etc.



Of course you P7100 boys chuckle and stuff hunks of bacon fat thru those things like a woodchipper and we -44 guys curse you #ad
for it. So yeah we are going to have to cut the tank with whatever we can ... . but how much?

 

[TPCDrafting]

out here they are looking into converting coal into diesel or a part of it thereof. If we could devise a way to convert womens shoes and excessive clothing and boxes of unused horse tack into #2, I'd be golden :-{}

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

out here they are looking into converting coal into diesel or a part of it thereof. If we could devise a way to convert womens shoes and excessive clothing and boxes of unused horse tack into #2, I'd be golden :-{}

Oh I could get you in so much trouble :-laf

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

I wonder if the coal gas would be acidic because of the Sulfur?

 

[TPCDrafting]

I googled "Coal to Diesel" and found some info on it. It's a technology they started looking at in the '70s during the fuel crunches then. It was shelved in the early 80s due to dropping fuel costs. Now they're reexamining the process.

 

[RustyJC]

Coal to liquid hydrocarbon fuel production (gasoline, diesel, etc. ) is known technology. Germany used it during WWII (the Lurgi process). One of the more modern processes was developed in South Africa during the apartheid boycotts - the SASOL process. The sulfur in coal is removed during the conversion.



Rusty

 

[HEMI®Dart]

Tim,



I saw this at the CT biodiesel Co-op:



"You could make 'C20'. Use 20% virgin canola from Costco for $3/g with petrodiesel. The viscosity will be thinner than b100, so it will be safe for all engines. "

 

[TORQUE THIS]

We know that theese trucks can run on chocolate milk :-laf

Ya just can't let it go can ya...

 

[onstottc]

I'd love to know what the upper limit is for my P7100 with stock injectors. I've been running a 50/50 mix of dino diesel and filtered, used veggie oil. The truck runs good on it. . Fuel pressure runs a few lbs higher and it stumbles a tiny bit when I first start it. So far, I've run 30 galls of veggie through it this way.



Of course you P7100 boys chuckle and stuff hunks of bacon fat thru those things like a woodchipper and we -44 guys curse you #ad
for it. So yeah we are going to have to cut the tank with whatever we can ... . but how much?[/QUOTE]

 

[keimmmo]

I have been paying about $1. 90 a gallon for diesel down here in Mexico for years. That is pretty cheap by todays standards, but it used to be almost double what it cost in the States. I started pouring a gallon of used motor oil in the tank with every fill when the truck had less than 500 miles on it. I find that it helps the fuel economy at that amount. Much more and it actually hurts it a little. Of course, it wouldn't matter if you were getting only 2mpg if the fuel were free!



I am keeping an eye on cooking oil prices and will likely add a little of that in the near future. I have used it for years as an emergency fuel when I was low on fuel and couldn't get diesel. I would add a few liters to the tank to get me to a fuel station.



Twice I was so desperate for fuel that I added a couple of gallons of gasoline and a quart of used motor oil for each gallon of gasoline. That isn't something I would recommend on a daily basis, but it got me out of the mountain villages and to where I could buy fuel! It DOES smoke on that mixture!!!



A friend once told me that I would burn corn cobs in the old '92 if I could figure out a way to liquify them and run them through the injection pump. He is pretty well right. Any one have any ideas?



Steve

 

[Signal73]

I would like to hear some more about burning a gallon of used motor oil to a tankful of fuel. I know nestle quick was talkin about doin this, Any added Prev maintenence like changing filters more often, and how well you must filter the stuff before you put it in kinda details would be helpful.

 

[E7mack96]

used motor oil should be no problem. I run it in mine from time to time. No noticible difference in the way it runs.



E7 out

 

[keimmmo]

I made a filter base to use used oil filters to filter the motor oil. It worked, but was slow. For the last couple of years, I just pour the used oil in a gallon jug and let it set a couple of weeks before I use it. It helps to keep it in the warmest place possible. I pour it into the tank right out of the jug, but leave just a little in the jug... with the worst of the dirt.



I relocated my lift pump just ahead of the fuel tank. Right after the pump I added a 2qt spin-on filter as a pre filter. I run a fuel pressure guage and change both filters when I see about a 2psi drop in pressure. I often get 25k out of a pair of filters, so I must not be getting too much dirt in the fuel.



I use any decent quality motor oil I drain out... from either gas or diesel vehicles. Thin multi-grade oils seem to work the best. Avoid oil with STP like additives. DO NOT use gear lube or hydraulic oil. ATF works fine, but I mix it with motor oil... I do not add a gallon of ATF to the fuel! Watch synthetic oils. Some burn fine while others do not burn at all. So, try a little in a tank and see what happens before you pour it in by the gallon!!! Personally, I usually try to mix the synthetic oil with the dino oil... about a pint of synthetic in a gallon of dino oil.



Steve

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

Damn I am lovin' this thread :-laf Post by post as you read you are laughing your laces loose and the next you are serious as a heart attack!



Bill- What ratio to canola oil?



Tim- Womens shoes . . Horse tak . . OMG that is too much



Other Tim - I bet you could



Rusty- Costwise I bet that coal would be a viable option. I wonder what by products can be useful?? Hmmm research needed



Mark- Nope I just can't :-laf



Steve- I have heard of PURE corn oil (Meaning Virgin with no presservatives) being run thru farm equipment around my dad's area. I would also stay away from ATF alltogether. It's chock full of deetergent (Tis why transmission's stay so clean but also varnish easily).

 

[TORQUE THIS]

I know nestle quick was talkin about doin this

And yet another one!



TMTT, Lets talk to Andy Friday night, he has been doing a lot of research on bio and other fuels...

 

[mhenon]

Last Thanksgiving I spent some time with my daughter and son-in-law in Austin, TX.

Down there they like to cook their turkeys "Texas Style". . which means deep fried in peanut oil.

Anyway, there was about 10 gallons of used peanut oil left over. . so I ran it through a filter and dumper 1/3 in my truck, 1/3 in my son-in-laws truck (F350 7. 3) and the rest in his dads truck ('05 Cummins).

All the rigs ran fine and you would never know there was anything in the tank but regular D2 ('cept the whole subdivsion smelled like fried turkey when we fired those rigs up).

Mike

 

[LRamey]

Have you seen this web site?

Go here. http://www.dieselsecret.com/ .



Kinda interesting. A friend of mine that's a Bio chemist is currently making bio diesel & burning it in his power stroke. He's bought into this & is going to give it a try & if he can make it work I'm set up with a couple restaurants in town that can supply me with about 15 gallons a week & they will filter the big chunks out.

I'll keep you posted.



Lonnie

 

[nps]

Go here. http://www.dieselsecret.com/ .



Kinda interesting. A friend of mine that's a Bio chemist is currently making bio diesel & burning it in his power stroke. He's bought into this & is going to give it a try & if he can make it work I'm set up with a couple restaurants in town that can supply me with about 15 gallons a week & they will filter the big chunks out.

I'll keep you posted.



Lonnie

Consensus is that it is probably a scam. There is a thread titled ". 46 cent diesel" in the Gen Diesel topics thread.



I'll be surprised to hear if it works out for your friend.

 

[LRamey]

Re:.46 cent diesel

I'm no expert & that's why I sent the info to this friend of mine. He claims that they couldn't just "thin" the Veggie oil but he has had experience with adding an enzyme that breaks down the glycerin to the point that you can get it through the fuel system. I feel that if anyone can determine if it will work he can. So we'll see...



Somehow it makes sense to me that if you can filter SVO & then heat it enough to burn it, then you can "thin" it or what ever is going on to get it to the point that you can get it through the fuel system, it should work.



But who am I to say... ? I know just enough to get myself in trouble!

 

[GMincher]

And to think I go to the local gas station and fork over $2. 60 for #2 diesel!!!! I guess I'm a little picky but you guy's scare my truck!