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DGerth

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Gentlemen,
Another question for yall. I get asked this one frequently, all most as much as the delete or not delete which as yall know is a personal response.
Will running red fuel mess up anything with the exhaust system or computer on the truck? Other than the legal morass of possibly being "dipped" as it were, I really dont know the answer to above question. What say you my educated friends of the forum?
 
Same as On-Road, it just has a potent dye added. It will take a few tankfuls of on road to dilute the remainder on off-road in the tank so she’s running clear.
 
Yes, same fuel, just died so they can detect if you’re not paying the tax man….

Not sure what penalties are... but I've heard they don't take it lightly and you have to prove how many miles were "untaxed" so save your receipts. Also Dye will not come out of filters, or other permeable surfaces.. Personally I don't even run off road in my tractors as it doesn't make sense for me to keep them separate in the shop. At the end of the day it'll be your risk tolerance, I'd surely keep it to myself if I was doing so.
 
At least in Europe the fuels are not the same, red comes without any additives for wear and lube and also isn't winterized.
Don't know how that is over here, but I wouldn't take a chance to ruin my HPCR system.
 
I was told by our local CENEX Farm supply red is exactly the same other than color.

After a second thought I believe you are right.
You use "offroad fuel" legally in many machines with combustion engines, so the fuel is tuned for that.
Whereas in Europe that use is always prohibited, and therefor it is strictly fuel oil, used for heating purposes only.
 
After a second thought I believe you are right.
You use "offroad fuel" legally in many machines with combustion engines, so the fuel is tuned for that.
Whereas in Europe that use is always prohibited, and therefor it is strictly fuel oil, used for heating purposes only.

Back when they were changing formulas for the new emissions they were different for a while.
 
ULSD Tier 4 for nonroad was June 2010. Locomotive and marine fuel got it in 2012.

All diesel fuel sold in the United States effective June 2012 is 15ppm ULSD.
 
I bet I pay Way more than that in Highway taxes each year. In Ny and Nj both State and Fed highway taxes are around 38% give or take a weee bit. money of the reasons you will never hear about a Politician fighting to lower fuel prices. The higher the prices the more tax they get.
 
In Wyoming, as I understand it, if you only have one tank on the ranch and you have 4 trucks and use them on and off road, if you keep track of mileages and gallons/costs and use only non red fuel, you can receive a rebate for road tax paid for non road use on the trucks and tractors. A little book work and sometimes "creative bookwork" I think road tax in WY is .60 to .85 $/gal and might be more now with $5.50/gal fuel, maybe $1 /gal.
gtwitch in wyoming
 
Fuel taxes vary from state to state. The fed is the same across the country but the states can do their own thing. It is not based on a percentage but a flat rate per gallon.

For the fed diesel is 24 cents per gallon, for gasoline it is 18 cents per gallon.

The states are all over the board most of them are in the 20-30 cents per gallon but some lower some higher
for diesel Alaska has the lowest at just under 9 cents per gallon and Pennsylvania the highest at 74 cents per gallon followed by Washington at 49 cents

For gasoline Alaska has the lowest at the same just under 9 cents per gallon and again Pennsylvania the highest at 57.6 cents per gallon followed by California at 51 cents per gallon.

https://igentax.com/gas-tax-state/

While I have nothing against ev vehicles they currently wont work for me perhaps in the future, nor do I feel they are some sort of climate/pollution/anything panacea, nor do I care for the myriad of subsidies direct or indirect that they receive. It does somewhat irritate me and it certainly gets worse the longer it goes without being dealt with is they do not currently pay any type of road tax as has be previously mentioned in this thread. Weight is weight and does the same amount of wear and tear on the road as any other vehicle on the road regardless of the type of engine it is using.

As far as using dyed fuel in farm vehicles can get a little grey, while certainly usable on the farm once out on the roadways is where it can get a bit grey as federal law says any vehicle on the roadways cant use it except in declared emergencies, or severe fuel shortages. Farmers and ranchers can get a fuel tax rebate for their on farm use. Also at least in Colorado farm plates are only valid within 150 miles of your farm/ranch.
 
There are many various procedures for crediting off road use of on road fuel and the subsequent taxes.

Gas for your lawnmower or weed eater is technically eligible for the tax rebates.
 
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