oh no fords new motor

[osiris]

I thought maybe you guys would like to see this although its still going to have less HP than the duramax but they did switch to HPCR system. Might get interesting http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/bulletins/2007_PowerStroke.pdf Happy Reading

 

[Grizzly]

Ford can not use the HPCR system because it is a DC/Mercedes patent.

 

[jwilliams3]

Ford can not use the HPCR system because it is a DC/Mercedes patent.

????



Its a Bosch patent.



Duramax and a host of others use the Bosch HPCR system.

 

[betterthanstock]

Note the graph says "desired horsepower" and "desired torque"

Will that be achieved in real life?



"In some cities the air coming out the tailpipe will be cleaner than the air going in"



Whooo, now that's a new one. The EPA calibrates for the background pollution and subtracts that from what's out the tailpipe.

Will Ferds have their tailpipes plumbed into the heating air/conditioner ducts?

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

"In some cities the air coming out the tailpipe will be cleaner than the air going in"



Whooo, now that's a new one. The EPA calibrates for the background pollution and subtracts that from what's out the tailpipe.

That's not what they are saying. I have many friends that work for the big 3 and this isn't new. There are cars they have tested in certain polution filled cities that the filters and such in the engine actually do produce tailpipe emissions lower than the ambient air. That's how far emissions controls have taken us and why going further seems a little ridiculous in most cases.

 

[SThorud]

All of the '07 emissions diesel rigs will put out exhaust that is cleaner than the normal air in Los Angeles.

 

[gsbrockman]

Duramax and a host of others use the Bosch HPCR system.

Yepppp... ... you're right.

The wife's '05 Jeep Liberty Limited 4x4 CRD also has HPCR and uses a CP3 injector pump, too. The 2. 8L 4 banger is made by V. M. Motori.

Greg

 

[klenger]

If the air coming out is cleaner than the air going in, then we should drive more to help clean up the air.

 

[RustyJC]

Ken,



Volvo was actually promoting something like that. They worked with Engelhard to develop a catalytic coating that they use on their radiators that converted ozone back to O2 as the smoggy air passed through the radiator. I suspect it's the same stuff that Sharper Image advertises on their Ionic Breeze home air cleaners.



Rusty

 

[Matt400]

Might get interesting http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/bulletins/2007_PowerStroke.pdf Happy Reading

Thanks for that link, it was interesting to check out. Ford needs improvements IMO. I drove an 05 F550 the other day and that thing was awful. It was noisy, made weird off idle tip in rattling sounds and didn't even come close to the power of my Ram. The new 6. 4 still looks like a nightmare to service vs the simple cummins though.

 

[CMullen]

Funny isnt it, their answer to better is more complex and more to break. Mine has always been the simpler the better. I know that the 3rd gens are alot more complicated then the first gens. But they need to get back top basics with international

 

[Mobius1]

Uh Oh this looks like a big mess. They have a brand new motor now that they can't get to work right, now they are working on a new, more complex motor. I fell sorry for ford techs and owners who have all these nightmares

 

[CumminsBu]

If the air coming out is cleaner than the air going in, then we should drive more to help clean up the air.

They should run the engines nonstop. :-laf Maybe all the treehugers will buy them. :-laf

 

[Matt400]

They should run the engines nonstop. :-laf Maybe all the treehugers will buy them. :-laf

Think the huggers are already working on it.

 

[crobertson1]

Ford can not use the HPCR system because it is a DC/Mercedes patent.

I'm confused. I thought Ford owned DC/Mercedes.

 

[GerryDrake]

A step further

Let's see, if you drove in a really smoggy area, you could burn the particulates in that smog, have clean air out the exhaust, and if it was smoggy enough, you wouldn't even need to burn diesel. Imagine, an engine that ran on the particulates in the ambient air

 

[WDixon27]

yea but after a while they would need to look for a bombed truck to follow for more fuel give a hoot roll some coal for your underprivileged fellow motorist

Let's see, if you drove in a really smoggy area, you could burn the particulates in that smog, have clean air out the exhaust, and if it was smoggy enough, you wouldn't even need to burn diesel. Imagine, an engine that ran on the particulates in the ambient air

 

[Matt400]

In that case I think the state should pay me drive a PSD :-laf :-laf

 

[Grizzly]

I'm confused. I thought Ford owned DC/Mercedes.

NO! Dodge owns Powerjoke.