Oil EZ Drain Plug from Geno's

[Bill Littlefield]

Has anyone used the replacement oil plug from Geno's "EZ Drain Plug?" I have a few questions:



1) Does it allow all the oil to drain out?



2) Does it seal in a fail safe way?



It sure would be nice to eliminate some of the mess.



Thanks,



Bill

 

[Ron Bissett]

Originally posted by Bill Littlefield

Has anyone used the replacement oil plug from Geno's "EZ Drain Plug?" I have a few questions:



1) Does it allow all the oil to drain out?



2) Does it seal in a fail safe way?



It sure would be nice to eliminate some of the mess.



Thanks,



Bill

1 as far as any can tell without taking the pan off Yes . 2 Yes and cover seals also . Had mine almost a year no problems so far . Hope this helps . LOL Ron in Louisville KY

 

[DBuchheit]

The answer to the first question is a definite no. It leaves better than a quart in the pan.



Second question: seal should be good unless you get a bit of debris under the o-ring. Then it might leak. The cap acts as a secondary seal though.

 

[NVR FNSH]

It does leave a bit of oil in the pan - not sure if it's a quart or not. My answer is to remove the plug AFTER all the oil has drained. Not nearly as messy as having to remove the plug with 11 qts coming out.



It does look like the plug could be a bit shorter and allow a full drain. I've been meaning to find out who makes it and send them an inquiry about a redesign.





Brian

 

[Spaceace]

I think not..sorta

It looks like the thread boss extends up into the pan. Even drilling the threads of the ezdrain (thoughtful mod, by the way)will not allow all the oil out. The pan threads extend higher than may be realized. I put my finger up in there.

 

[DBuchheit]

The reason that oil is left is that the boss in the bottom of the pan is cross drilled. There are 4 channels very close to the bottom of the pan where the last of the oil drains from. That's why the oil starts draining quickly as soon as you start unscrewing the plug. The last time I drained the oil, I didn't even remove the plug, just unscrewed it a few turns. By the time I changed the filter, the pan was empty. I did double check by removing the plug afterward.



I did measure how much the EZ plug left in the pan, and I overflowed a 1 quart measuring cup.



I'm just keeping the EZ as a spare until I order from Geno's the next time, then I'll get a Super Plug. After that, I'll make someone a very good deal on the EZ.

 

[DNelson]

Originally posted by RamBoat



I'm just keeping the EZ as a spare until I order from Geno's the next time, then I'll get a Super Plug. After that, I'll make someone a very good deal on the EZ.

RamBoat, haven't seen the Super Plug on Geno's yet - what are the details?



Thanks,



Don

 

[tmacc]

Simple to modify...

I have the Geno's Finger touch drain valve. I saw a post, I think it was Big Bob, that mentioned drilling (4) 3/16" hole right above the sealing washer to let all of the oil out. This simple modification works like a charm and takes about 5 min. to perform. I checked it after my first oil change since installing it and it allows ALL of the oil to drain. After removing the FT, there was no oil left to come out. I suspect that the EZ Drain can be modified in the same way. One would think that the mfgr. could make this slight modification to their machining process and save us the trouble, but like I said, it only takes 5 min to do.

Good luck w/ your decision.

Tom

 

[GFoley]

Bill,



This was one of the first things I put on my truck. It has been on for 2 1/2 years now. I cannot answer how much remains in the pan. I know it is the cleanest and easiest oil change I've ever done. I slide a 4 1/2 gal bucket under the truck, attach the drain tube and let it drain.

It is well protected and I have never worried about losing the cap.

Someone posted that they would write the mfrs and ask how much was left in the pan, I recall the plug is made in Switzerland or some place like that.

I am very satisfied with this setup and I think you'll be as well.



Glenn

 

[illflem]

tmacc, I think the reason your E-Z drains completely is that you lucked out and the holes you drilled just happened to line up with the channels that RamBoat speaks of. As for drain plugs, the stock one is fine with me, I just loosen it without removing and it drains fine. I could pay for quite a few half turns with a wrench for the price of an E-Z.

 

[Bob Cochran]

Guess I must have lucked out to. My modified finger touch drains all the oil.

 

[Spaceace]

Not here

As stated before, my cross drilled finger touch does NOT drain all the oil.



Drilled as per pictures and instructions... so don't go there

 

[Bob Cochran]

Spaceace ~ No argument from me as I have not taken the plug out after draining so there very well could be oil left or I lucked out in the position of the plug when I tightened into pan. I don't think much left though "in mine" let me emphasis MINE as putting in 11 quarts comes to the exact same level on dip stick before and after finger touch installation and cross drilling.

 

[Spaceace]

Bob, I was not pointing fingers... just sharing my experience. I'm gonna probe further in the pan for more information. I like being wrong... it is the best teacher.

 

[Wiredawg]

I Like Mine!

Gentlemen:



This device turned this from the messiest vehicle to change the oil on to the cleanest. I haven't removed since installing to see if any left, but I add exactly 11 quarts to bring even to top mark on dip stick. Next oil change, I'll remove the EZ to double check.



Wiredawg

 

[chuck3]

EZ drain

I like it, I got tired of fighting the drain plug, seems I allways got it on tighter than I wanted too or needed too rather, then when you have to take it off it can be a real bear. Plus you dont have oil running down your arm.

 

[Bob Cochran]

Wiredog ~ certainly it did take a messy job and made it easy and not messy at all. Specially if you, like me, like to drain oil hot. Hot oil in the armpit smarts!!!



Spaceage ~ You are just as likely right also.



As I remember the gasket on the finger touch was really soft. Is it reuseable? I know I drilled the cross holes with the gasket on and nicked it. Was worried it would leak!!! Dumb me for not taking the gasket off but wanted to drill as close to it as possible but not behind it!!!

 

[Newf Limo]

I could deal with the mess. I use a big bucket and it catches it all, and my hand and arm are cleanable. What I couldn't deal with, is feeling like I was going to bust two ribs and get a hernia every time I needed to remove the drain plug . The Idea that I needed a 1/2" breaker bar and three feet of pipe to remove the plug made me wonder when it was going to fail. I put the EZ plug in on my last change and am looking forward to my first "no sweat, no pain" oil change Eventually I am going to Dual by-pass filters and extended oil changes. At that time I will be much more concerned with getting the pan completely empty.

 

[Sparky10]

Oil Drain

Hi Bill,



I have the easy drain plug on my '99 and I love it! No more HOT oil running down your arm when you trying to pull the plug. It seals great and the cap acts as a secondary seal. Best thing I have put on my truck yet!



If you are ever in La Pine or want to get together and check it out just e-mail me and we'll set up a time and place. There is another TDR member there in Bend and several others around the area. We all need to get together for coffee and chat some time.



Let me Know!

Take care, Scott

 

[NVR FNSH]

Don't try cross drilling the EZ drain - the plunger seatst at the top of the cylinder. If you cross drill it you just defeated the purpose as the external (secondary) cap just became your drain plug.



Brian