OIL PLUG and quick drain

[DaveK98]

Hi,



Getting ready for my 1st oil change. Heard the horror storys on the factory plug.



If I get one of the quick drains from geno's don't they extend up in the pan an inch to half an inch and thus not allow all the oil to "drip" out? When I have changed oil in the past on other vehicles(gas) I get the oil warm, pull the plug and let it drip for an hour or so to let all the "sludge" drip out. Maybe this is not necessary?



Which of the two designs does everyone like better? Any problems with the one that you just flick with your finger 90 degrees and it drains?



Thanks!

 

[Bertram65]

I have used the Fram sure drain on my truck since new, I have used them on other vehicles as well, never have had any problems. You can get it at Wal-Mart for $13, it is made from steel and works very well.

 

[rbattelle]

What are the horror stories about the factory plug? Mine's been absolutely flawless...



-Ryan

 

[p-Bar]

What are the horror stories about the factory plug? Mine's been absolutely flawless...



-Ryan

LIKEWISE



Don

 

[BIG BOB]

I have used the Fumoto "Finger touch" on my wife's Sable, my old truck (White Obsession) and now on Ghost Rider. I've never had any issures with this plug. Works great and no mess.



Fumoto "Finger Touch" oil drain plug



Geno's has them!

 

[JKing]

Ditto on the Fumoto. It's nice to drain the oil and not even have to carry a rag underneath the truck... .....

 

[KBennett]

What are the horror stories about the factory plug? Mine's been absolutely flawless...



-Ryan

Ditto. The oil filter was tough the first time but no problems with the plug.

 

[ropinfool2]

what I like about the fumoto is I don't need a drain pan anymore. I just keep the gallon jugs from the last change and drain into those, put the caps on, and I'm done. No more oil running down my arm from trying to get the plug out. John

 

[RAMINSPEED]

I thought that all the oil wouldn't drain due to the length of the treaded portion of the quick drain device. I went ahead and bought one anyways and to my surprise it doesn't affect it at all. I had it installed and drained my oil then I removed it to see how much more oil I could get out and none came. The reason is the oil pan drain plug hole design is rolled in so it can be threaded fro the factory plug. In turn, not allowing all of the oil to drain from the pan. So bottom line. I wouldn't worry about it. There will be some residual oil left in the pan no matter what unless you drop the whole pan.



And I must say, using the ez drain plug with the hose provides me with the most pain free and cleanest oil changes ever. I would recommend it to anyone who is tired of making a mess on yourself and the ground.

 

[rbattelle]

The one and only downside to the drain valves that prevents me from running out and buying one is the danger of snapping it off on a rock, tree limb, curb, whatever.



-Ryan

 

[ScottBrown]

The one and only downside to the drain valves that prevents me from running out and buying one is the danger of snapping it off on a rock, tree limb, curb, whatever.



-Ryan

You will do more damage to your truck running over rocks that high or tree limbs etc I doubt you would ever break it It is tucked up in there pretty good

 

[RKraft]

I have the Fumoto quick drain. I have never had a problem either. I work for a big trucking company Cenex Harvest States and this is all we have on are 300+ Semi tractors and some have been on there for 1,000,000+ miles on the Cummins engines. This the reason I went with it and lot cleaner than the flat plug on my 12V. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Moose]

The problems some ppl refer to is that the thin shoulder on the factory drain plug can deform and crack if the plug is overtightened (factory spec is 40 lb-ft) allowing the drain plug to leak or in some cases. . even break in half... . I use the heavy duty drain plug from genos with the magnetic tip. . so far ive not seen n e metal bits on the magnet but one never knows what might happen... .



Moose

 

[DaveK98]

RKraft,



Were you able to use a torque wrench on your Fumoto drain valve?



In college I worked at a bus shop and the Fumoto's look exactly what we had on all or oil/transmission pans and I never saw a problem with them. Sure made it easier.



Thanks



Dave

 

[LightmanE300]

I've had fumoto 'finger touch'(as geno's calls them) valves on 4 vehicles now, and would not have a vehicle without one. You never have to remove it so you don't worry about stripping, torquing, or that moment when the normal drain plug is just about out, with burning hot oil behind it. I splurged and spent the $1 for the safety plug that greg at lubespecialist.com sells. Even though the fumoto will not pop open on its own, I like the extra piece of mind. You guys that run fumotos might want to grab one. As for knocking it off on things, even though it hangs down 1", there are plenty of crossmembers and other things that hang down far lower. If you are an extreme rock crawler and do a lot of offroading, maybe you shouldn't get a fumoto - and you definitely should get some skid plates!

 

[Scooby]

If you are an extreme rock crawler - you should be using your Cummins to tow your Jeep/Buggy/Scorpion rock-crawler to the trails/events!

 

[IC Smoke]

I went with the "EZ CHANGE DRAIN PLUG - 22MM" plug



I like the idea of the tube and how it works with the tube being the only way to open the valve (this could be bad if I lose it... . ) now just 2k more miles and one last dirty oil job and I will have my new toy installed



Ian

 

[Nate]

The stock oil plug, what is the correct torque? For my 98 I think it's like 60ft/lbs they list in the book. I know it's higher than I'd think. The one I have on now is leaking, I have another one to replace. Napa replacements are only a few $$s.

 

[rbattelle]

The stock oil plug, what is the correct torque? For my 98 I think it's like 60ft/lbs they list in the book. I know it's higher than I'd think. The one I have on now is leaking, I have another one to replace. Napa replacements are only a few $$s.

Holy cow, don't go to 60 ft-lb. I don't recall the torque spec for it (40 ft-lb comes to mind), but I've always just snugged it up and never had a leak...



-Ryan

 

[jwduke]

Just called the service tech at Voss Motors in Sioux Center, IA. he said "No more than 40 ft. lbs" so theres your answer.