Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) One click or two? (GSK question #1,000,000)

[Woodenhead]

My 3K GSK kit had been in for a while but since I installed it I've never been able to keep the RPMs constant between 1000-1500RPM.



I have a manual throttle for a high idler and if I slowly bring the RPMs up to 1000, then try to keep em there they go right past and up to about 1500RPM.



Up till now I was just living with it because I didn't have much time to play with it.



My plan is to give each spring one more click tighter but I'm not sure if that'll be enough.



So my question is 1 click? two clicks? or more?



Mike

 

[Got Smoke?]

I think that a click tighter will give you even worse problems. My springs are 3 clicks in, and I talked with Mark @ Piers and he said to loosen them one click. I'll also have to adjust the idle at the time, so I haven't had time to adjust it all yet. But I'll be sure to post a thread when I do.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

Initail click plus 2 almost always works... ... go through the side!



Jim

 

[mikel]

It has been my experience from playing with my truck that you will want to go one click looser, not tighter.



Good luck,

Mike

 

[HoleshotHolset]

I agree with Jim...



The first semi-solid click and then 2 solid clicks after that... .



It really is hard to describe the process efficiently. Much easier to just do it for someone... .



I have done lots of GSK's and haven't ever had to mess with idle adjustment... unless I play with the settings trying to get more out of it... .



Matt

 

[Woodenhead]

Initail click plus 2 almost always works... ... go through the side!

When I installed them I just set them at the same # clicks I had on the stock springs (maybe one extra). I didn't have to adjust the idle either.



I'll go through the side as Jim recommends, that was going to be my next question. I went through the side for the install, I wasn't sure if the top was easier for adjusting.



Thanks for the replies.



Mike

 

[HoleshotHolset]

Going through the top is more of a PITA... you can barely see what you are adjusting. BUT you can get at the GSK really quickly to make fine adjustments... .



I would do the install through the side... . then if you have to fine tune it... do it through the top via the AFC hole...



Matt

 

[CurtisvilleCummins]

I had 3gsk. tightening them made things worse,but i wanted to rev. to3k. got the 2 springs from piers that made it 4gsk have about . 035 to. 040 sticking out of the retainer,about best,timed at 16 will it to 19 soon. 96 215 pump,370s o plate,DD jammer turbo.

 

[lpearson]

Two clicks does the trick. If you get them to tight the truck won't idle no matter what when you take your foot off the "go pedel"



Lowell

 

[Jim Fulmer]

I've done them both and I recommend going through the side, fuel shut off it up... . hint,hint and there is more room to work..... easy!



Jim

 

[JohnE]

I've noticed a touchy throttle is caused by too tight or too loose springs. Too tight makes them really sensitive and loose makes a a sloppy throttle. Each pump has unique reaction to governor springs. I've notice the factory setting on 160 hp pumps is very loose. The GSK does better a click tighter. On the bigger manual pups the factory setting is pretty tight. A click looser may be better with GSK.



Yes the side. I've tried the top twice and gave up both times. I especially enjoy breaking the lock wire, handing it to the owner, and telling them I just voided their warranty.

 

[Woodenhead]

Gave each spring one click tighter yesterday. Idle went up about 50 RPM to around 800-850 RPM. Can hold RPM steady to about 1200RPM, @1200RPM it climbs to 1650-1700 with no throttle movement.



The touchy RPM range (1200-1600) makes for some touchy/jerky shifts.



On the bright side it does seem to pull harder in the top end.



If I go tighter I'm guessing it'll idle higher, the touchy RPM range will be higher and it may have a little more fuel in the top end.



Tomorrow I think I'll go 2 clicks in the other direction (one looser than before) and see what happens.



Any further suggestions are more than welcome.



Oh yeah, I made a handy tool for adjusting the springs from a really big flat screwdriver that I picked up at a discount tool store for $3. 95.



Mike

 

[Jeff H]

My engine voided the warrenty it self. Was broke before we got to it.

 

[Woodenhead]

Originally posted by Jeff H

My engine voided the warrenty it self. Was broke before we got to it.

??????

 

[Woodenhead]

Originally posted by JohnE

I especially enjoy breaking the lock wire, handing it to the owner, and telling them I just voided their warranty.

Duuoooh



Never mind, I get it now.



Mike

 

[Woodenhead]

Well, I ended up backing of one spring two clicks, 1 click looser than when I started the post. The other spring seemed a little looser so I only backed it off 1 click, back to original position. The idle is right on the mark, the RPM's increase only with pedal movement (no creeping) but it seems I've lost a little in the top end. Soooooo, I slid the plate full forward.



End result, it took one click on one spring, and none on the other.



All is well now.



Thanks for the help

Mike

 

[JohnE]

Jeff was giving me a bad time. His truck was my last full GSK install. I also got his springs a bit loose and the throttle was better than stock, but still sloppy. No wire to break, either.



I also reset the springs on a 98 12 valve that day. They were set very tight. Truck idled way too high and throttle was touchy.



Glad you got it figured out. Sometimes one side is a click tight or loose. My 97 had one stack a click tighter. After GSK you may have to try a few different settings.

 

[mikel]

Glad you got it sorted out, and thanks for letting us know what it turned out to be.



Mike