play in steering

[Cummins Cowboy]

my truck now has about 103,000 miles on it. It has a bit more play in the steering wheel than i would like. It is not that big of a deal but it gets kinda annoying on uneven roads or changing lanes on a crowned road. At my old job we had a '95 3500 that kinda felt about the same with steering wheel play although not as bad. Is this just charactiristic of dodge's??? A mechanic friend recommended maybe tighting up the steering box. any ideas?????

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93 D250 5sp 3. 54 gears sans muffler, ISSPRO tach, K&N filter, needs to be bombed BAD
I would rather be cummin than stroken

 

[Dale Reed]

cowboy, order and install a BORGESON Needle Bearing Universal Joint Shaft Assembly from http://www.borgeson.com/TruckProduct.htm
Dale

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1990(140,000 miles), 3. 54 rearend, W250, 5spd(replaced on guarantee), new head gasket at 98,000 miles, Reunel winch bumper, extra front and rear leaves, K&M air filter, Stanadyne fuel filter and Performance Formula Fuel Conditioner, Borgeson steering assembly and modified steering box to stiffen the steering, balanced drive shafts fore and aft, driver’s side rubber mat loose to mop up the water that leaks into the cab, CB and 2 meters(KB7VEJ), above the cab aluminum canopy with kayak/canoe rack. It’s a keeper.

 

[David Phipps/Mike Hurd]

Dale hit the nail on the head. Best $ I spent On my 92. Mike

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http://hometown. aol.com/hotshothauler/myhomepage/business.html 2000, Air brakes on truck & trailer. 19,000 miles todate. DOT custom built sleeper unit. pulling a 40' G/N flatbed
2000 FL-70 Pulling a 48' low boy.

 

[CrewCabDiesel]

DITTO, on the new steering shaft.

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1985 DODGE 1 ton Crew Cab(imported from California with no rust) W/8' box converted to 4X4 in 1999. Converted to a non-intercooled 1991 Cummins Turbo diesel & rebuilt 5 speed Getrag in 2000(wife can't drive a stick . Freshly rebuilt and Balanced Cummins, Rebuilt NP205, Rebuilt Injector pump and tweaked, Matched Injectors, 3" New Mandrel Bent Exhaust,no muffler, Borgeson Steering Shaft, K&N Air Filter, 4:10 gears, limited slip rear end, 16" Goodyear GSA Wranglers and LE Package and a Sony CD Stereo. Next add-on some “Banks” toys ! If you want to know why I did all of this, 2 kids, one on the way and I can't stand Ford and Chevy. Kyle Hoover ,Fruitport, MI.

 

[Case500D]

Just curious, but how much is a new Borgeson steering shaft? Mine is ok right now, but I am sure it will choke sooner or later.


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Jeremy Sweeten
1992 Dodge W-250 4x4
Cummins Diesel, Intercooled,
LE Package, 165K, AT, Warner Hubs, Dana 60HD 4,060 lb. front axle and Dana 70 6,084 lb. limited slip rear axle with 3. 54 gears, NPG 205 transfer case, 3" straight pipe(3. 5" Banks coming soon, still straight piped too), K&N air filter
http://home.earthlink.net/~sweeten1/index.htm

 

[CrewCabDiesel]

Just got mine, $205 w/2nd day air
Kyle

[This message has been edited by CrewCabDiesel (edited 02-11-2001). ]

 

[Cummins Cowboy]

thanks for the help guys. Is this the square block looking thing that is about 2iches long that connects the steering shaft directly to the steering box. I felt it and moved the shaft and did notice some play i think this is where the problem is.

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93 D250 5sp 3. 54 gears sans muffler, ISSPRO tach, K&N filter, needs to be bombed BAD
I would rather be cummin than stroken

 

[AlK]

cummins cowboy, yes that is it. With the borgerson shaft comes a proper universal joint that is covered by a rubber boot. I replaced mine a number of years ago because the steering box was leaking. This is a much better setup.
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Al

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92-LE,4x4,5spd,3. 54,Borgeson steering shaft, Tach,Isspro Pyro & Boost, 16cm2, PW injectors

 

[SGarrison]

cummins cowboy, I agree with the others, the Borgeson steering shaft is the way to go, if you got the dough. Problem for me was that I did'nt, so I went to Dodge and purchased a coupler rebuild kit for $11. 00. Now it is as good as new. I can get the part no. s if you need a inexpensive fix.
MPb

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92 W350,LE, 4x4, DRW ,4:10 LSD, auto,DTT converter, superior transmission shift kit, 16cm2, PW injectors, K&N, autometer pro comp gauges exhaust temp, boost ,trans temp, tach,pump adjustments black & silver, running boards, stainless wheel covers, 74 Road Runner, 69 Dart GTS factory 383 matching no. s

 

[jsimpson]

When you crank the wheel back and forth, look for vertical play on the steering arm at the steering box. It can be adjusted out at the top of the box. Also check tie rod ends and idler. I had to replace my idler as soon as I got the truck. I have yet to have a bad coupler on any truck or car I've had, but time will tell! Of course I DID use two Borgeson joints on my old MG to clear the exhaust manifold on the 375 hp Vette I installed in it. They worked pretty well.

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[This message has been edited by jsimpson (edited 02-12-2001). ]

 

[BillyKidd]

CrewCabDiesel: Did you get your Borgeson Shaft from Borgeson or some other dealer? WHO? Thanks

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93,CC,4X4,LE,Auto/3. 54. Banks intercooler/exhaust,K&N,PW injectors, 14cm2 wastegated turbo, "timed" pump, Walker "flow-thru" muffler,Emerald Grn. w/ SS running board,Grizzly Grill Guard.

 

[CrewCabDiesel]

I called Borgeson direct and they shipped that day. I was in a hurry to get mine, I had just installed my rebuilt Cummins/Trans/Transfer Case and did the rest of the 1991 conversion. Turns out in 1991 Dodge changed the length of the steering column and my old 1985 steering shaft was too long. Try setting still for two days waiting for a part, and all you can do is set there and listen to the Cummins purr, just dying to drive it #ad
. But over all, the new steering Borgeson shaft is great and if I had know the difference it made, I would have done it much sooner.
Kyle

 

[Wirenut]

Steering drag link? Did somebody mention that? I know I had to replace that.

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• '93 250 LE 4x4 5spd 4:10 Loaded,dual 5" chrome stacks,12cm² turbo(37psi),PW injectors,K&N,pyro/boost,US Gear E-Brake,tool box,CB,10" AR rims, 285/75/16 Bf goodrich. "wirenut_21529" on Yahoo Messenger
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• '94 GMC 2500 6. 5L Turbo

PICTURES.

 

[ScottB]

I did like Plowboy and got the parts to rebuild my coupler. I got the part no. from him and it cost all of $5. 75 at local DC dealer. It's really simple and you could rebuild it many times for what a replacement will cost. Just my thoughts.

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93 W350 5spd White 3. 54 gears 4" stack Powerwagon Injectors. Headache rack with lights. Cummins Mudflaps. 2" lift on seat. Goosneck ball Beefed up reciever. Fog lamps, Back up lights. CB 98 Factory sound system

 

[jsimpson]

i'M WITH YOU sCOTT!

 

[Wwalden]

Could someone post the DC part numbers?? Although my parts guys are *usually* pretty bright... I'll have to check it out.

By the way speaking of loose steering, on a 175k mile truck (1990 D250) which front end parts are most likely causing body roll, steering play, and excessive steering wheel vibration, especially over pavement that isn't PERFECTLY smooth? I'm thinking tie-rods or wheel bearings may be shot with that many miles. . just bought the truck last Dec and it's gotten worse...

 

[GeneH]

The pn for the steering shaft coupler rebuild kit is 04443436.
Gene
92 350 4x4

 

[62MaxWedge]

Ordered the rebuild kit and when ordering, use number 4443436, as the dealer didn't recognize it with the "0" in front of it.



Oh, list price was $9. 25 and a net of $6. 94.



Hope this helps somebody.