2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Power steering

[M Evan]

Hi guys, I do have problem on my 2001 2500 . My steering box give up on me I thought I will do it right and replaced with Borgeson steering box and shaft. And I put in rebuilt power steering pump too. But I do have problem, when I drive the power steering is working great, but when I stop the steering wheel is a hard to turn and even rising RPM don't help to much. Brake power booster seems to work, only once in while when you step on brake start feel like you need to overcome small resistance, but you push little more in and work perfect. Any idea what could be the problem ? Steering pump or the steering box .

THX milos

 

[WilsonF]

This helped my friends truck. We just cleaned the screen didn't drill out anything.

powersteering

Floyd

 

[DSeamans]

Going to a tighter ratio gear means it will take more force to turn the wheels. The above mentioned link to increase pump pressure helps a lot. Heed the warnings and go a little at a time as too much pressure does interesting things! You probably won't completely overcome the hard steering when stopped. Rolling tires greatly reduces resistance. You can get it better.



Dave

 

[GAmes]

The problem with rebuild pumps is you never know what you are getting as a core. Saginaw pumps have been around for a very long time in hundreds of applications. My '67 C20 Chev pickup has one. The other problem is the quality of rebuilds. I have read dozens of instances where the pump was defective out of the box. In addtion to the cleaning/flushing of the system Saginaw sells an inexpensive seal kit (about $8) for the rubber o-rings that shrink and start leaking over time. With one seal kit and numerous periodic flushes my original pump lasted over 500k. When it died I went thru about 5 pumps in less than 100k and became quite a master at replacing them in parking lots far from home. I finally bought a new OEM, a lot more expensive, but I haven't had to crawl under my pickup in 45 degree weather duing a rainstorm or had to pay some numbnuts (which happened in The Dalles, OR) to replace it only to find out a couple hundred miles away that the reservoir bolts had not been installed.

 

[M Evan]

Yeah it is really strange, I play with it yesterday. Sometime is working normally even on stop, but you drive couple yards stop and it is hard again. What I don't really understand how come, if I rise RPM to 2000, still don't work properly. Plus one more Q. the steering gear box use the power steering fluid inside or is filed with gear oil ? Sorry if stupid Q.

milos

 

[GAmes]

The steering gear box has PS fluid pass thru it. No gear oil.



One thing you might try is to take the weight off the tires and go lock to lock with the steeing wheel numerous times. Be sure to keep the reservoir filled. Also, if you did not fill the system with new fluid (hope you didn't use atf) there could have been enough contaminates in the fluid to clog the filter of your rebuild OR you bought a defective pump.

 

[M Evan]

The steering gear box has PS fluid pass thru it. No gear oil.



One thing you might try is to take the weight off the tires and go lock to lock with the steeing wheel numerous times. Be sure to keep the reservoir filled. Also, if you did not fill the system with new fluid (hope you didn't use atf) there could have been enough contaminates in the fluid to clog the filter of your rebuild OR you bought a defective pump.

Guys, filter you are talking about is small filter on the flow piston ?

THX milos

 

[M Evan]

Ok I try everything I even installed the AGR Performance power steering pump, but it is still same I can't turn wheel easy when not moving, actually sometimes is even impossible. But interesting thing, when I bleed the system with front wheel lifted I can turn them easy, but when I push the brake pedal down all the way, steering start to be hard. It is normal ?
milos

 

[DSeamans]

Axle u-joints

One thing I forgot before. Sometime when you stop, the u-joints line up so that if you look from the side it looks like a X instead of +. When just right, the joints can't flex until they turn a little. The same explains why they seem to bounce when in 4X4 and turning tight. That's the main advantage of CV joints over u-joints.



Dave