Power That Will Not Void The Warranty...help

[RyanMiles]

Just want some advice on good mods to make to my 06...help

I want to add some performance to my 2006 Cummins. SMARTY... . QUADZILLA... . PREDATOR ..... TST ... ... . EDGE and so on... I have been on this site for 6 months and can't make a decision. I want a drone free exhaust, towing power and reliability. Can someone give me some advice? I use my truck for work and want simple performance that will NOT VOID THE WARRANTY.

OK: If we are going to void the warranty, then recommend some simple power mods that work. Tell me what I can count on day in and day out for 150,000 miles.

 

[zstroken]

Leave it stock.

 

[CDonaldson]

Hey Ryan.



I have been pondering the power thing too. The towing side was to me an easy choice, Quad. I read everything on everyone's sites, read comments on the forums, then started paying attention to sigs. Quad was there more often in those who towed and also wanted a little power. The ones who towed less had the STD, but they do tow good-sized loads. The XZT only has on-the-fly 3 position adjustability if you also have the Commander. Since I had gauges already, the STD seemed more fitting. The top side of the XZT is the middle of the STD. The best fuel mileage reported with the STD is at the 100 setting. Since the box is easily installed and easily removed, and if you don't hammer your truck, it should not really matter about the warranty stuff, you should be fine. From the programmer aspect, I am getting a Smarty. I want to get my tire stuff right primarily. I like the idea of being able to read codes, clear them, etc. It seems to be an ongoing project with downloads, and is virtually undetectable. I have read so many pros and cons regarding all the different programmers, but one thing has stood out, there IS good support. Same goes for the Quad.



I basically use my truck to tow and haul stuff for my small ranch. I am also looking for simple performance. I have had my Quad on since Christmas day, I like it a lot. It is just plain a smooth operational box, no if's, and's or butts. My Smarty will be here this coming Friday, so I will know more about it as time goes on.



As far as drone free exhaust, I have not thought about that, the stock exhaust is fine for me right now. I am not getting a drone out of it, works fine. I think that will be something I will do much later on as the exhaust system needs replacement. How long that will be I am not sure, couple to three years I imagine.



Hope some of that helps you out a little. I think everyone goes through all of this. You will come to a decision about what you would like to try. If you don't like it, there is always the classifieds. If you take good care of what you buy you will have no problems re-selling it.



CD

 

[MMeier]

Don't touch it then, hard enough to get warranty work done on something that hasn't been touched, much less modified.

 

[ACooper]

Don't touch it then, hard enough to get warranty work done on something that hasn't been touched, much less modified.

I would say Smarty would be your best bet... However there are no sure bets on any of Dodges warrantys. They will look for anything to void :-{} . You gotta love em!!! I Only buy Dodges for the Cummins... Nothing else.

 

[JayWm]

I use my truck for work and want simple performance that will NOT VOID THE WARRANTY.

STOCK and nothing but will insure your warranty remains intact.



Smarty claims they can't be detected. But if the dealer does by some fluke, well your SOL. Remember you said "will not void the warranty"

 

[NUKEMAN]

Uh, like everyone says, leave it stock. Or, get some really small tires... .

Seriously, There isn't much you can do that will not void your warranty. It also heavily depends on your servicing dealer. Mine, for example, is mod freindly if they have been installed with common sense in mind. Most dealers are not as gracious.



I've always been a fan of the Van Aaken C3. 2 box. I hear the EGT's are a bit high, but I really like the fact it doesn't modify fuel rail pressure, and they produce a quality product.

 

[AMink]

I think the only way is to put up a sail and hope the wind is blowing in the right direction! :-laf The more I think about it, the more I wish I hadn't got any extended warranty. Mod sooner!

 

[jwilliams3]

The more I think about it, the more I wish I hadn't got any extended warranty. Mod sooner!

I dont understand the logic of waiting until warranty expires to modify your truck. If you modify your truck at any point during warranty period or not you will have to fix it yourself or pay to have it fixed.

 

[zstroken]

I dont understand the logic of waiting until warranty expires to modify your truck. If you modify your truck at any point during warranty period or not you will have to fix it yourself or pay to have it fixed.

Well us poor folks can't always afford the stuff Justin. The way I look at it wait about a year or so to make sure there isn't a manufactures defect then if your going to mod it mod away. I learned this years ago with snowmobiles. Why have something for 3 years and it not be what you want then start modifying it. Modify it and enjoy it. Each year that it is unmodified is a year closer to the day you trade it in. We had a guy at work blow his flexplate. He paid $100+ to tow it to a dealer that said they had a flexplate and could fix it that day. Well they didn't have a flex plate, he had a BDDL and a TS box on the truck. He then paid to tow it to another dealer that had the flexplate(I am sure it was after about a 10 minute cuss out session at the service manager), when they went to put the truck in the system the truck had restrictions on the engine, transmission, axles, and drivetrain. They said they can't perform it under warranty. Of course dealer 1 says they didn't void the warranty, and he says he didn't go off on them.

 

[jwilliams3]

Well us poor folks can't always afford the stuff Justin

Well then dont modify it. Its really very simple.

Pay to play and dont whine.

 

[zstroken]

Well then dont modify it. Its really very simple.

Pay to play and dont whine.

That is the rule to remember, if you can't afford for the truck to be down or can't afford to pay someone to fix it or afford the part and fix it yourself. Then do not modify it.

 

[JFielding]

I beefed up my '94 after the warranty went. It is nice nothing spectacular. I wouldn't do it on a truck still under warranty. The new rigs are great in the stock configuration. If you decide that you have to do it, I would recommend the Quad XZT that my son has on his '03. A little better mileage and great for towing. If you stomp on it,it flys.



J

 

[AMink]

I guess I'm gunshy about losing warranty items that are not affected by bombing. Too many horror stories about specious reasons behind dropping warranty. That, and my wife says the truck runs fine! :{

 

[oneshotkyle]

Well then dont modify it. Its really very simple.

Pay to play and dont whine.

can't be said in any plainer english.

 

[RyanMiles]

I know you got to pay to play, but there is no reason why somebody can't recomend an assortment of bulit proof modifications. If a product isn't close to perfect- DON'T BRING IT TO MARKET. I want a simple and complete package. GOT IT!

 

[RustyJC]

If a product isn't close to perfect- DON'T BRING IT TO MARKET. I want a simple and complete package. GOT IT!

No, Dodge warrants an engine that operates within its design parameters. When one starts increasing developed horsepower and torque with attendant increases in peak firing pressures (mechanical loading), injection timing advance/duration and EGTs (thermal loading), then why should Dodge be responsible to warrant failures caused by operation outside of its design parameters?



Rusty

 

[RyanMiles]

All I want is a couple of threads from people who have real world testing experience on performance products for the 2004. 5 - 2006 Dodge Ram. If you don't have any, why comment? I don't care about your reasoning with Dodges Warranty. Just tell me what you got, if you got it, and if it works for you. OK!

 

[JHardwick]

No, Dodge warrants an engine that operates within its design parameters. When one starts increasing developed horsepower and torque with attendant increases in peak firing pressures (mechanical loading), injection timing advance/duration and EGTs (thermal loading), then why should Dodge be responsible to warrant failures caused by operation outside of its design parameters?



Rusty

Well said!



Ryan, you may want to ask over at DTR, they are more accepting in the world of cheating DC out of warranty work.

 

[RyanMiles]

Well said!



Ryan, you may want to ask over at DTR, they are more accepting in the world of cheating DC out of warranty work.

I am not trying to Cheat Dodge out of any thing. I just want to add Some MORE POWER (SAFELY). Thank You. to those who have offered legitimate advice. The rest of you have taken this the wrong way.