Competition Pro Pulling League....

[jwilliams3]

PRO PULLING LEAGUE







Pro Street Diesel Trucks

Class will run at 8000 lbs. Trucks must remain stock appearing. Must have upholstered interior. Factory mounted batteries.

Maximum wheelbase permitted 158”.

Maximum engine size will be 460 cubic inches. Engine must come from factory in one ton or smaller pickup truck. Engine must remain in stock location as intended by manufacturer.

Hook point must be no closer than 48” of centerline of rear axle, hitch height maximum of 26”, with a minimum of a 3” opening. Hitch point must be easily accessed. No “trick” type hitches permitted. Hitch must be stationary in all directions.

One turbo with one pressure stage permitted. Maximum of 3. 5” opening on intake wheel. Turbo mounting plates are permitted.

Exhaust must exit straight up, with (2) -3/8” inch bolts mounted in a cross pattern.

No cast iron clutches or flywheels permitted.

Fuel safety kill and/or air shutoff must be installed on rear of truck. Kill switch will be securely mounted to the back of the vehicle and have a two (2) inch diameter ring to attach the sled.

Fuel tanks must be securely mounted in bed of truck. No fuel lines may be inside of truck cab.

Computer chips and boxes permitted.

Stock appearing injection pump required.

Mechanical or electronic fuel injection permitted.

Must be D. O. T. approved tire. Maximum tire height 35”. No studded tires or chains. No alteration to tires allowed. No bar or terra tires. Dual rear wheels are permitted.

Water injection permitted.

Front weights must be no more than 60” from the center line of the front axle to forward most point and be securely fastened.

Fuel limited to Diesel fuel and Bio-diesel only. No alcohol, nitrous, propane or any oxygen enhancing agents allowed.

Drive train will consist of the following: Any front axle, any transfer case, any rear axle. No planetaries permitted.

Axle shields are required. Shield to be . 060” thickness steel or aluminum. Shield not to be mounted to axle ends or hub bolts. A hole may be cut in one to allow locking in of hubs.

S. F. I Bell housing Blankets and/or S. F. I Blow proof Bell housings required

All U-joints must be shielded 360 degrees with 3/8” thick aluminum or 5/16” thick steel. Shield will be 6 inches long minimum and centered on U-joint. Inside diameter of shield will no more than 2 inches larger than U-joint.

All intermediate shafts between the transmission and transfer case will be totally enclosed in 3/8” aluminum or 5/16” steel, ¼ of shaft may be visible.

Suspension modifications are permitted. Removable suspension blocks are permitted.

Fire Extinguishers, helmets, and seatbelts required.

Trucks may be trailered to the event.

Rules as written will be in effect through the 2007 season.







DIESEL SUPER STOCK FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE

· Weight class will operated at an 8000 lb. maximum

· No Nitrous, Propane or Alcohol*--* #2 Diesel Only

· Water Injection is permitted in this class

· Turbochargers- Limited to 2 stage configuration

· Hanging weights allowed- Weights must not extend more than 60" from centerline of front axle (Weights must be secure)

· 26" Hitch height

· Hitch hook point must not be less than 48" from centerline of rear axle. Min. 3" Diameter ring or clevis

· Hitch must not exceed a maximum of 33 degree angle from pivot point to hook point

· Rigid Suspension allowed

· Drop boxes, Reversers allowed

· Exhaust must exit straight up, stack minimum of cab height.

· Snell 85 or better helmets required

· S. F. I. * Fire suits required.

· No cast iron clutches or flywheels permitted.

· S. F. I Bell housing Blankets and/or S. F. I Blow proof Bell housings required

· All U-joints must be shielded 360 degrees with 3/8” thick aluminum or 5/16” thick steel. Shield will be 6 inches long minimum and centered on U-joint. Inside diameter of shield will no more than 2 inches larger than U-joint.

· All intermediate shafts between the transmission and transfer case will be totally enclosed in 3/8” aluminum or 5/16” steel, ¼ of shaft may be visible.

· Fire Extinguishers, helmets and seatbelts required

· Exhaust must exit straight up, minimum of cab height, with (2) -3/8” inch bolts mounted in a cross pattern.

· Air Shutoff's required- consisting of (1) cable to the rear of the truck to be operated by the sled, and also a cable inside the driver's compartment

· Axle shields are required. Shield to be . 060” thickness steel or aluminum. Shield not to be mounted to axle ends or hub bolts. A hole may be cut in one to allow locking in of hubs.

· 35" tire maximum height

· Cut or Sharpened tires allowed

· Maximum engine size will be 460 cubic inches.

· Mechanical or electronic fuel injection permitted.

· All engines will have a deflection shield, running the complete length of the block casting. Shield must be securely fastened and must be . 060” thick.

· Engine must come factory in 1 ton or smaller pickup

· Wheelbase maximum 158”

· Tires and wheels must stay in the center of the wheel wells as intended by the manufacture.

 

[JFaulkner]

No studded tires or chains

I was really hoping to use tire chains!! That makes me laugh.

Someone must have tried this or there wouldn't be a rule. :-laf

 

[DPS]

Well two out of three organizations are getting smart and allowing real driveline in the pulling trucks. It is nice to see that there are people out there who realize that stock axles are not enough any more.



Josh www.dieselperformancesolutions.com

 

[Forrest Nearing]

sorry, but what does "two 3/8 inch bolts in a cross pattern" have to do with exhaust?

 

[jwilliams3]

Keeps you from dinging a spectator or track official in the head with a 2000* ninja star.

 

[Forrest Nearing]

duh, makes sense now!

 

[Sled Puller]

This is a step backwards in Diesel pulling, not forward.

Its funny they say ANY driveline... except planetaries. . ?



A single turbo limit of 3. 5???Anyone try to spin a 3. 5? It may as well be unlimitied turbo.



Sometimes there is more to rules, than the wishes of one truck. Perhaps instead of trying to write rules to fit that truck, it should bump up a class, and leave the class for where the MAJORITY of the trucks are?



If the Pro/Super classes are to grow, they needed to hold off on an unlimitied drivetrain. There is plenty of axles and spools now to hold quite a bit more power.



You can't keep changing rules to match a winners truck.





Try to talk a street puller with a hot truck to bump up a class where there is Rockwells and drop boxes, more than once for fun, and then ask him to travel for points.

 

[1badplr]

This is a step backwards in Diesel pulling, not forward.

Its funny they say ANY driveline... except planetaries. . ?



A single turbo limit of 3. 5???Anyone try to spin a 3. 5? It may as well be unlimitied turbo.



Sometimes there is more to rules, than the wishes of one truck. Perhaps instead of trying to write rules to fit that truck, it should bump up a class, and leave the class for where the MAJORITY of the trucks are?



If the Pro/Super classes are to grow, they needed to hold off on an unlimitied drivetrain. There is plenty of axles and spools now to hold quite a bit more power.



You can't keep changing rules to match a winners truck.





Try to talk a street puller with a hot truck to bump up a class where there is Rockwells and drop boxes, more than once for fun, and then ask him to travel for points.

OK, I'll ask a "STRRET PULLER"? Gene how do you really feel on this subject? I recall last season someone not bumping up a class??? :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[Sled Puller]

On the contrary, I bumped DOWN a class, when an HX-40 and a HT3B couldn't compete in Super Street anymore, and the Street Pullers decided that a 2. 8 charger (that I cautioned against) was a good idea.

Finishing in the top 7 at all the pulls and never winning one, showed my truck was right where it belonged.

Keep in mind in 2002, virtually the same set up, drove 6 hours to Muncie, won the 8000 open class, and drove home again. Thats about as street as you can get.



A good set of twins with water, and I would have cleaned Ingram and Straleys clocks! :-laf Out of budget, lucky for them.

 

[Cumminsman]

Gene, the dhra will continue to lose trucks in the super street class if the pullers continue to break. the PPL is trying to look to the future of this class. pullers can concentrate on building motors when they don't have to buy drivetrain parts every other week. i know of at least 2 more trucks that are one break away from putting rockwells and drop boxes under them. the pullers will get tired of breaking parts that will now hold. i. e nv5600, nv4500, dld 241, dhd241, dana 70's and dana 80's. speaking of budgets why would you continue to dump money in parts that will not hold. it gets old. the PPL is only saying that these drivetrain parts are legal. not mandantory. i plan on running points in this class with the ppl. i can make most if not all of the pulls. why would you limit the horsepower of a class with the drivetrain and not the turbo? the dhra superstreet class has an unlimited single rule now doesnt it? oh... ... didn't ryan milby beat you with a single????

 

[csevers]

Last Year the same class had a 3 inch turbo and oem drive line and was a very competitive class with TWO brands running ( Chevy and Dodge) and street and purpose built trucks both running together and doing very well. There was NOT much carnage either.



These rules are missing one thing and that is pulling tires that would make this class make more sense to me, my guess is that in 1 year of running on un altered dot tires the people that do pull with ppl will be screaming for more tire so they can hook the trucks up more.



How many people will jump into this class? Will it be a ONE brand show again? I would asume that spectators would want to see more than just dodges all the time. Will the great Tomac pull with these rules? Does the spectator want to see 5 trucks in a class or 15, I would think we should grow the number of trucks in a class before making the rules harder for some one to get started in that class.



We will have to see how it all works out I am glad the DHRA has stuck to there rules.



Craig

 

[DPS]

Yep once again the guy makin the rules is pitchin for the home team. The ONLY way to make a truck live with out breaking the driveline is to use parts capable of handling the stress. I will once again state just because the rules allow it doesn't mean they require it! just because it says 3. 5 limit doesn't mean you can't run a smaller charger. At some point people will begin to bore and stroke these motors to bigger cubes, at such time they will need a bigger charger to make things work. THe way I see it there is no difference between a diesel truck and a diesel tractor, those who make rules for NTPA and PPL obviously see it the same way. Limit the air, NOT THE DRIVELINE. Buying parts to throw away every few runs is pointless and a waste of resources. How good could some of the super streets run if they had all the money back that they have spent on ring and pinions, axle shafts, transmission parts and the like to spend on better engine upgrades.



For those that are wondering, you can buy good used profab units, for the same price as a nv4500 with a billet input shaft, and a 241hd. As far as axles I have seen several rockwell rears ready to run for about 2500-3500. If you have a D80 with expensive axles that will cause the r&p to be the weak link you will spend just as much. The difference is that a welded carrier, and stock axle shafts in a rockwell will take anything a single turbo cummins can put out.



Josh www.dieselperformancesolutions.com

 

[Kyle03D]

Gene, the dhra will continue to lose trucks in the super street class if the pullers continue to break?

use chevy parts, independent front suspension is the ticket

 

[csevers]

DPS Who are you talking to/about? I had no input on the atpa rules last year, I pulled with them. My input was not considered by the ppl this year. But there is a PERSON that DID influence the rules heavily and he is from IN. DO YOU have all the INFO? Do you pull in any of these class's?



The street class has enough power to break parts what do you think should happen there? Drop boxes and rockwells as well?



Craig



P. S. the Chevy's do make some good power and they are not breaking lots of drive line parts. Kyle

 

[DPumphrey]

for once i have to agree with gene on this one. before everyone jumps to conclusions, you must understand that the idea of not breaking anything makes me very happy and to be able to open the motor up and really play sounds great. i feel they are just a little early in making this move. i feel they will spread the competiotion level out so far their numbers will dwindle, because the guys that don't have the money to make the move or simply don't want to limit themselves to one league will not be able to compete without it.

just my opinion

 

[TSterner]

this seems like a pretty big jump from last year. and yes just b/c your allowed to have it doesn't mean that you have to. you could enter a turd box if you wanted but your not going to compete, it seems like we are getting too many classes to cater to too many diff. people. what sucks is the guys that spent the big money last year to build the best drivelines that were allowed to run in this class, now are a step behind.



its fine for them to make these rules and those of us that choose to run with them will have to live by them, but i think the number of pullers will be low.



i personally don't care if thats where i have to go to drag that heavy thingy around thats fine with me. but i think there are or will be several people that wont.



ted

 

[DPS]

I would like to publicly appologize to Cseverson. My post was apparently posted after his last night and was not at all directed at him. I am very sorry to have offended you. I did not re read any new posts in the forum before I posted and did not realize there was a new post. I still mean what was said, just that it in NO WAY was directed at him. Thanks





Josh