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Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Problem: can't do burnout. Solution?

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I have an EZ already and am about a RCH from ordering the DD3s. Will these give me burnout power? I am hesitant to tap wire just yet. . I don't care about warrantee, I just don't want to kill my VP44.



This is not just for show... it's also to scrap the Michelins so I can get real rubber. . :D



YADA YADA on the clutch.



HOHN
 
Sorry Andy, I don't have the funding for EDMs. Otherwise I would have already called JR or Don M for step 4s.



jlh
 
I would hope that DD3's and an EZ would do burnouts okay... . :D



I know a lot is in the technique, not the power.
 
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Well Hohn,

I think the Super Mentals will do fine with the EZ. If not then a Edge Comp will DEFENTLY do it. You can sell the EZ, and use it towards the Comp. Get a used Comp, and it will defuse the cost even more.



However, JR2 is right, the technique might need to be examened. ;)



Andrew
 
I don't get it

From a dead stop I can stand on the throttle of my "stock CTD except for a Raptor" and smoke one tire (kinda lame) for at least 75 yards any time I want. Kinda wierd, it starts moving than as the boost comes up (within a second or two) the tire begins its melting deal. (No smoke, that is really lame)





I think what you really need is more smoke so you can look a lot cooler while destroying those tires.



As you can tell I don't do this often



Come to think of it I need a posi and more power too:D
 
burnout

both the 92 and the 99 would smoke both rear tires in stock form. Maybe you just want an excuse to buy bigger nozzles:D
 
Hohn,



I assume that "Yada Yada on the clutch" means it's stock? If thats the case, I think the only smoking you'll be doing will be the clutch disk. LOL On mine, 6-speed with 3. 54's, 2nd gear didn't seem to spin fast enough to smoke, which made me try in 3rd... ... ... yea, it smokes in 3rd. :D Although not recomended with a stock clutch. :(



Later, Rob
 
I agree with Rob. 2nd gear burnouts don't smoke. I just recently realized that I can smoke mine in 3rd. Come to a complete stop, rev to about 2800, slowy let out the clutch until boost builds, then dump it! Voila- You got smoke. It's not good for the clutch though. I can usually smell my clutch for at least 2 mins afterwards. But, I figure, If I smoke the clutch I'll just have to get a SB and some nozzles to replace it. :rolleyes:
 
Power brake it in 1st gear to get em hot and rollin, slam 2nd and and they start to burn good, slam 3rd and let off the brake and fill the area with smoke, its easier going up a small hill.
 
I will have to practice my technique a bit, I guess.



Yada yada means I KNOW I will have to replace the clutch. Why not have some fun making it go?? hehehe.



Here's where I am headed: DD3/PMAX3adj/PDR 40 or 50



Right now I just have the EZ, so I am am thinking that I want injectors next, then do the clutch when it's toast. Then I need to replace the tires, upgrade to PMAX, replace the tires, go to PDR turbo, replace tires, etc.



Then maybe i will go to n2o, and, you guessed it, replace the tires.



What i REALLY want is enough power to lay tires smoke by just stepping on the pedal, not having to do funny clutch tricks.



HOHN
 
You guys are the reason a person should buy a new truck not a USED truck :{ :-laf You guys don't do this to new ones on test drives and then not buy them? Do you?? :(
 
PB, you have me all wrong:(



I would never do this to a vehicle that wan't mine. Being that it IS mine, I alone bear the privileges AND responsibilities of what I do with it and to it. I have the privilege to moderately BOMB, but the responsibility of fixing what I break! I have amazed myself that I lately have had a lot of restraint, not using the power that the truck has. There's a certain kind of satisfaction in knowing that it's there and NOT using it. It's like in the movies when the martial arts stud chooses NOT to pick a fight he could surely win-- extra cool points for our hero. I am hoping to have a VERy powerful truck, one that people will tell stories about to others, but I also hope that am known for my reluctanct to demonstrate that power. Thus, "operation preserve clutch". By sticking with the stock clutch it will FORCE me to be a more disciplined and patient driver.



I bought my truck because of the potential it had. If I wanted something stock and relied on warrantee, I probably would not have bought what I did. I don't expect Dodge to pay at all for MY truck. It's not theirs, and it's not to their specs anymore.



When's the last time you saw a truck, ANY truck, that had NO accessories on it at all?? I mean no aftermarket mudflaps, bedliner, lights, grille guard, bug deflector, towing hitch, camper shell, etc. You name it-- almost EVERY truck has at least a little something added to it since it was new. That's part of the joy of truck ownership.



It just happens that I am customizing my powertrain instead of just cosmetic stuff.



BTW-- I will probably never go all the way up to a fueling box. 375 HP is enough for me. I figure that it's pretty safe since the marine versions are rated at this level (though they are probably built stronger inside). That, and I will rarely be asking the truck to operate at max power against a max load.



HOHN
 
Hohn, I think you need to practice on the technique. I'm sure there are a number of guys in your area that would be more than willing to demonstrate with your truck the proper way to thin the rubber on your tires. How about it, are there any volunteers that would help a fellow TDR with this problem?

Paul
 
Just some FYI that I heard from Bill K reguarding burnouts with automatics

He said that you should NEVER let the boost build up close to 15psi with the brakes locked up. He says that it will shear the output shaft of the trans:{ :{
 
NEWSFLASH



I went with the most killer injectors of all: 275s. hehehe.



I thought about it, and I just am not ready to go that big on injectors until I can do it right. So, I decided to bomb for MPG for now. Let's face it, EZ+275s is enough to have fun, pull almost anything, and still get decent mileage with no EGT issues.



After the 275s, I am going to go with an adjustable fueling box, probably the PMAX 3. That way I can go from 100% streetable to more than enough to have fun at the push of a button.



I am not going to go bigger than 275s until I can afford a set of EDMs. Once Don M can get his EDM machine automated, the price will come way down (right now he does them all by hand).



Just like there is now HDTV, digital cameras, etc, I believe that EDMs are what the future holds. So I am going to wait and do it right. This will also give me time to do the clutch, exhaust, and intake.



Who knows, maybe I will decide that an EZ and 275s is enough HP for me anyway!!! (as if THAT could ever happen)



BTW- what HP range would I be looking at with a PMAX 3 and 275s? I was thinking that about 365ish would be a good guess.



HOHN
 
Pardon my ignorance, but I am new the 24v lingo. Can someone explain to me these things:

EDM

DD3

EZ

PMAX

Fueling Box

[Edge] Comp



Thanks.
 
Originally posted by CB_Parker

Pardon my ignorance, but I am new the 24v lingo. Can someone explain to me these things:

EDM-- electrical discharge machine-- the best injectors you can get

DD3-- Diesel Dynamics Stage 3 injectors

EZ-- Edge Products EZ box-- enhances power via timing and minor fueling

PMAX-- TST products, PowerMax enhances power with LOTS of fueling

Fueling Box-- one that taps that injection pump wire

[Edge] Comp-- Edge products COmp model



Thanks.



Check these links:



http://dieseldynamics.com/

http://www.edgeproductsinc.com/products.html

https://secure.tstproducts.com/acatalog/



HOHN
 
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Thanks. I was looking for that EDM thing on those sites, but couldn't find any info... does one of those manufacturers make it? If not, who does?



Are there any other big name diesel performance companies?



All I know of is Diesel Dynamics and Piers Diesel.
 
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