Pulling two trailers

[Kent Kuykendall]

I was thinking about pulling an inclosed trailer behind a fifth wheel. I saw on utube the Hitch Hog, but I could not find where to buy one. Has anyone know of it or a similer product? It is a dolly that goes on the hitch that supports the second trailer and has wheels.



Thanks



Kent

 

[jelag]

There are a lot of states where this is illegal. . have you checked your state laws. .

 

[BimmerAgent]

Hitch

Have you thought about mounting a hitch on your fiver? In the summer I'll pull either the boat or the flatbed w/ATVs behind my fiver. Works pretty well. Bruce

 

[HBarlow]

Is the tongue weight of the enclosed trailer you are considering pulling so heavy it requires a dolly for support?

I would't want to tow with a dolly with small tires on a swivel mount.

 

[Kent Kuykendall]

There are a lot of states where this is illegal. . have you checked your state laws. .

I think that some states only would allow it with the use of a dolly as long as you are within the legal length.



Kent

 

[Kent Kuykendall]

Is the tongue weight of the enclosed trailer you are considering pulling so heavy it requires a dolly for support?



I would't want to tow with a dolly with small tires on a swivel mount.

It would be a 12-14 ft. hauling mx bikes to races. Behind a 36 ft. montana 5th wheel.



I was hoping to find a dolly that had larger tires. Have not found the ritht one on the market as of yet.



Kent

 

[Kent Kuykendall]

Have you thought about mounting a hitch on your fiver? In the summer I'll pull either the boat or the flatbed w/ATVs behind my fiver. Works pretty well. Bruce

That is what i am considering but thought it would be safer with a dolly because the montana has a long overhang.



I used to pull two 16 ft. stock trailers loaded with livestock or sometimes hay before i got a gooseneck. Dot got me in VA. for pulling two without the use of a Dolly. Guy said it was leagal with a dolly.



Kent

 

[Okie-Go]

I pull two trailers quite often. Make sure the lights work. Last year in Oklahoma I stopped at a cafe to eat and a state trooper looked at the rig and just said looks like you got a pretty good load. I just said yes sir but the cummins can handle it. He just replied drive safe and have a good day. I had a 25ft goosenck trail loaded with fire wood and a 12ft trailer behing it with two atv's on it. Of course I had texas plates and made sure lights worked and safety chains were attached.

Okie

 

[Newf Limo]

I have pulled doubles for ABF Freight. Now is a good time to start practicing looking wayyyy ahead and anticipating everything! People will change lanes right as soon as you go by with your fiv'er not realizing that your trailer is towing a trailer. People don't look before they do stupid stuff. They just do stupid stuff.



Also, never go down a street you don't know. You may end up having to unhook everything to turn it around and then have to hook it all back up again. You will not be backing them all up together. But, no doubt you know that. This is more for people now getting the idea that they should consider "trying" it.



I know there is a really nice dolly that actually attaches to your truck to pull a goosneck but I don't think they make a trailer dolly. ( The Best Way To Tow Your Trailer | Trailer Hitch| Gooseneck Hitch | 5th Wheel RV Hitch | Safety Hitch | Automated Safety Hitch | Smart Hitch | Towing ) Without a fifth wheel set up on the final trailer, i am not sure what the purpose of having a dolly would be. (?) I see no reason why you would have limitations with direct draw on your fiver. You will be under 70 feet long, no?



With a smaller set of trailers it may not be so bad, if loaded properly, but, there is a reason why we call'em 'wiggle wagons'.

 

[odinjunior]

Don't you need a special license to pull two? CDL's have a doubles classification.

 

[mrtrombley]

Kent, I have gone all over the country this way, 5th wheel witha 14' enclosed. I have tryed many times to check legality but cannot find much. Anyway, my understanding is that in some state (TX, CA?) it is only good if the first trailer is 5th wheel type or gooseneck? and the second is a bumper type hitch. Also not sure if the electric brakes have to be working on the secon trailer.



I have never been stopped with this setup other than I was not allowed on the NY Thruway. Didn't have time to sit there and argue with then so went a different way. I have heard people say GA won't allow it, but have been thru many times including thru Atlanta.



But, for as long as I have done this, it's getting to the point where I wish I had a nice big 5th garage unit. It sure would eliminate a lot of headaches such as finding parke with long enough spaces, having to fill up on the truck side of truck stops, and finding places to stop and park in general. And, a little information, truckers won't like you. They don't like RV's to begin with and they have to have a CDL plus an endorsement to haul doubles. Something to be aware off!

 

[GAmes]

Most of the states that allow non-commercial doubles are west of the Mississippi, and very few have the same restrictions. For instance TX allows any combo up to 65 ft, but MN (IIRC) requires the front trailer to be a 5er and the rear one to be a boat and the total length allowed is 55 ft. CO and AZ allow up to 75 ft. CA requires a CDL with doubles endorsement and MI (I believe) requires a doubles endorsement on the DL. The best source I have found for towing laws is in the Woodall's Campground directory. I have yet to see one on line that is accurate.

 

[jelag]

OK guys, I know its illegal in WA and OR but legal in ID... . But with a CDL you can pull triples in OR but not ID or WA... I looked for the web sight that gives all the details but can't find it... . if you leave ID and go into BC you can't do it without a CDL...

A commercial enforcement officer tells me that with a CDL in WA a driver could actually do it as he's licensed for doubles... but they say the law prohibits all class D drivers from doing this...

 

[ADugan]

There is a similar set up called the Trailer Toad. It has a 15" tires and is 60" wide... they advertise it keeps the tires off the hump in the road with it being that wide. Here's the link. Trailer Toad

 

[Kent Kuykendall]

There is a similar set up called the Trailer Toad. It has a 15" tires and is 60" wide... they advertise it keeps the tires off the hump in the road with it being that wide. Here's the link. Trailer Toad

Thanks



Kent

 

[Kent Kuykendall]

Kent, I have gone all over the country this way, 5th wheel witha 14' enclosed. I have tryed many times to check legality but cannot find much. Anyway, my understanding is that in some state (TX, CA?) it is only good if the first trailer is 5th wheel type or gooseneck? and the second is a bumper type hitch. Also not sure if the electric brakes have to be working on the secon trailer.



I have never been stopped with this setup other than I was not allowed on the NY Thruway. Didn't have time to sit there and argue with then so went a different way. I have heard people say GA won't allow it, but have been thru many times including thru Atlanta.



But, for as long as I have done this, it's getting to the point where I wish I had a nice big 5th garage unit. It sure would eliminate a lot of headaches such as finding parke with long enough spaces, having to fill up on the truck side of truck stops, and finding places to stop and park in general. And, a little information, truckers won't like you. They don't like RV's to begin with and they have to have a CDL plus an endorsement to haul doubles. Something to be aware off!

My fifthweel is a montana 36ft. . with the tail end being so long behind the axels i thought that it could cause sway as well as hitch leverage on the 5er. i thought that a dolly would help to cut the sway and leverage issue. I would be about 65 70 long total. I too would like to go 5er with a garage area. so i may trade.



Thanks



Kent

 

[Kent Kuykendall]

I pull two trailers quite often. Make sure the lights work. Last year in Oklahoma I stopped at a cafe to eat and a state trooper looked at the rig and just said looks like you got a pretty good load. I just said yes sir but the cummins can handle it. He just replied drive safe and have a good day. I had a 25ft goosenck trail loaded with fire wood and a 12ft trailer behing it with two atv's on it. Of course I had texas plates and made sure lights worked and safety chains were attached.

Okie

I have pulled two 16s before with stock or hay on them when loaded 60 is about all you want to do. I had to unhook one when I got stoped by dot. then come back and get it later. The ticket said that i needed a dolly to make it legal.



Kent

 

[kenny61]

Check these links re laws



Rules of the Road



http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm

 

[BrianJ]

Most of the states that allow non-commercial doubles are west of the Mississippi, and very few have the same restrictions. For instance TX allows any combo up to 65 ft, but MN (IIRC) requires the front trailer to be a 5er and the rear one to be a boat and the total length allowed is 55 ft. CO and AZ allow up to 75 ft. CA requires a CDL with doubles endorsement and MI (I believe) requires a doubles endorsement on the DL. The best source I have found for towing laws is in the Woodall's Campground directory. I have yet to see one on line that is accurate.

Wherever you are pulling that info is inaccurate as well, you are only allowed 70' in Colorado.



On a seperate note, I have never heard of regulations regarding the use of dollies with recreational "triple" pulls.

 

[GAmes]

Wherever you are pulling that info is inaccurate as well, you are only allowed 70' in Colorado.

Well, there you go, a good illustration of my point:-laf



on edit; FWIW. I checked my Woodall's and it agrees with the 70 ft on CO. It does not list a max length for two trailers in NC which indicates that double towing is not allowed there.