Quilted Stainless Attachment

[BIGNASTY]

Looking for ideas on attachment of quilted stainless sheet to rear of trailer loading ramp?

Could pop rivet the edges and cover with a cap so as not to see the rivets but wondering about the field of the stainless would it need to be glued? if so what kind of glue would accomplish such a task.

BIG

 

[RVTRKN]

Unfortunatly the EPA has ruined most bonding agents, so the first question would be how permenant do you want it to be? The next question is, will it be eye candy, or as you mentioned the ramp, will it be used as a surface for a nonslip flooring? I would use stainless rivets with a rubberized glue. If both surfaces are smooth to be bonded and it would be permanent, I would rough up both surfaces and buy a fiber to metal bonding agent (don't know anymore of good bonding agents). I used to use a very strong bonding agent that bonded rubber to metal surfaces used at loading docks that could take constant pounding of trucks hitting the at the docks all day long. Whatever agent you use, make sure the surfaces are clean of any particles that were loose from sanding, clean and coat both sides allowing it to completely dry, then apply another coat allowing to become tack, then attach them. As an extra holding, as well as clamping to help the bonding, add rivets. If I remember the agent I used in the early eighties I'll PM you.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Attachment would be on the rear outside of the door which is also the loading ramp in this case. More Eye Candy or Safety as I see it, we had some days that were foggy on the Left Coast trip and thought that something shinny for the approaching headlights that reflects back at them would WAKE THEM UP!!

 

[mwilson]

My new cargo trailer does not have rivets, there is some kind of adhesive that holds the side panels on....maybe call a cargo trailer dealer and see what the stuff is???


No rivets at the seams or on the uprights..

 

[TFucili]

I recently saw a new Triton(expensive)aluminum box trailer that had failing seams(no rivets)all over the place. Don't know if it was a process or material issue, but I'd be plenty steamed.

 

[CBari]

The cargo companies use a 3m product can't think of the name of it but they use it on horse trailers some too.

 

[mwilson]

I recently saw a new Triton(expensive)aluminum box trailer that had failing seams(no rivets)all over the place. Don't know if it was a process or material issue, but I'd be plenty steamed.

I figure if mine ever bothers I'll pop the plywood liner out just long enough to buck rivet the panels. I have the technology here.....

I have not noticed any rivetless trailers running up and down the roads with bowing panels YET.......but that don't mean it ain't gonna' happen....

 

[BLNRAY]

Sikaflex,makes a variety of industrial adhesive and adhesive-sealants.i have used this at work for a lot of diffrent body repairs on buses.put it on with this stuff and it ain't coming off.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Just talked with the body shop they said that 3M makes some extremely heavy duty adhesives used in the Auto and Trucking industry for all the SNAP & GLUE CAR BODY & TRUCK CAB PARTS.

Waiting for a reply from the owner of the shop.

 

[mwilson]

Trouble with the 3M is that it will be very ridged. If the tail gate ramp flexes when loading the TACO it will pop loose over time IMHO.

Something such as the Sikaflex offerings or whatever the trailer folk are using will have a tad of flex built in by design.

3M bonding agents have varying work times, we keep the 3 minute and 10 minute here for the truck hood use...

http://3mcollision.com/3m-automix-truck-line-smc-fiberglass-repair-adhesive-3-08271.html

http://3mcollision.com/products/fil...-smc-fiberglass-repair-adhesive-10-08272.html

 

[BIGNASTY]

Trouble with the 3M is that it will be very ridged. If the tail gate ramp flexes when loading the TACO it will pop loose over time IMHO.

Something such as the Sikaflex offerings or whatever the trailer folk are using will have a tad of flex built in by design.

3M bonding agents have varying work times, we keep the 3 minute and 10 minute here for the truck hood use...

http://3mcollision.com/3m-automix-truck-line-smc-fiberglass-repair-adhesive-3-08271.html

http://3mcollision.com/products/fil...-smc-fiberglass-repair-adhesive-10-08272.html

No wonder why they keep you behind the desk looking at the internet all day!! Thanks for the thoughts on the flex of the drop door loading ramp. It does flex just a tad but that's all it would take.

 

[mwilson]

I'm not just another pretty face you know......

 

[BIGNASTY]

i'm not just another pretty face you know......:d

I wouldn't touch this one with a 50' pole :-laf

But I do thank you for the heads up about the 3M products. I revived the awaited call from the body shop owner he said that the 3M product isn't as strong as another that he suggested (im getting old and cant remember the name of it) he told me to bring it down and they would attach it and I wouldn't have to buy more adhesive than I could ever hope to use before it went bad.

Thanks Mike

 

[wlowe]

I've used double sided adhesive tape to attach diamond plate aluminum to a lot of different surfaces including my truck. The secret is to get the 3m vhb, (very high bond) tape. This is the tape they recommend for attaching things like fender flares and other accessories. I would use strips of tape in the middle and run rivets around the perimeter, then seal the edge with clear silicone. Ebay usually has a good selection to choose from.

 

[fest3er]

I've used double sided adhesive tape to attach diamond plate aluminum to a lot of different surfaces including my truck. The secret is to get the 3m vhb, (very high bond) tape. This is the tape they recommend for attaching things like fender flares and other accessories. I would use strips of tape in the middle and run rivets around the perimeter, then seal the edge with clear silicone. Ebay usually has a good selection to choose from.

Thoroughly degrease the surface(s). If really oily/greasy, first clean with parts cleaner. Use isopropyl alcohol (not rubbing alcohol that has oil in it) as the final cleaner. If you get all oil and grease off the surface, the adhesive will bond much better.

I bought a set of door sill guards for my truck back around '98 or so. I thoroughly cleaned the sills with alcohol. The sills are still in place with no signs of loosening.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Talked with a Trucker Pulling a Curtain Van about how nice his Rig looked and said that I wished I could figure out how to attach some Stainless to the back of my Trailer. He gave me the info and said that its made by 3M and that he attached it to the doors of his Curtain Van. He had the Mirror finish on his and it DID LOOK LIKE A MIRROR!!! he's had it on for several years so it takes the road grime, washing pretty well.

http://www.topvinylfilms.com/index.php?p=home


Problem Solved

 

[Bob4x4]

The body adhesives that are used today are stronger than the spot welds of the past.Our pick-up bed sides are glued on,they are a true nightmare to try to remove.Of coarse it is called structural adhesive not glue