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[nukegm]

in the united states, electric cars are primarily coal powered cars, the batteries contain minerals/rare elements, which slave children in far away countries mine for. and the existing electric grid would fail if everyone had a ev. additionally, as a taxpayer, i hate funding people who buy ev's via tax breaks. if an electric vehicle was able to stand on its own, without gubment subsidies ( taxpayers ) - i would be more accepting of them. recently a realtor for a neighbors house in a tesla got stuck in the snow in front of my house. i asked him how he liked his coal powered car as i was towing him out in my chained up plow truck - 1985 k5 blazer. he kept his zipper shut in regards to my question. cheers comrades!

 

[Ozymandias]

10% would be way enough to overload the grid. We did the math already over at home. The grid is the main problem, it isn't built at all for such loads. These car chargers pull a hell of electricity from the grid.

 

[High Voltage]

SEE YA enjoy your POS Chevy....

 

[EDankievitch]

Don’t worry everything is going to be free under The new Green bill

 

[Jim W]

Well, its a factor in our grid. I'm sure higher for 2019. Drive across this country like we do and windmill farms reach out as far as you can see.

Renewable energy accounted for 12.2% of total primary energy consumption and 14.94% of the domestically produced electricity in the United States in 2016.

I am sorry that you believe that the wind mill farms our the way to go!

If you drop the government tax incentives and the government dollars to support the wind mill farms. There would be none at all. That is like all of the solar panels in fields to gather sunlight for electrical power! Removed the government tax incentive's and they would be disappear also.

I would like to see the green initiative stand on it's own and let pure capitalism work. Socialism just does not work in my opinion were the government controls everything and provides handouts to the under achievers.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Too funny on the wind mills. I stay just a few miles from them near Palm Springs, CA in the Winter. Since arriving 10/28 those wind mills have hardly moved. A couple of windy days but that's it.

They are constantly failing or simply falling to the ground.

 

[SnoKing]

How did the largest power producing dam in the US get built. Answer with Federal and State dollars.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who took office in March, 1933, supported the dam because of its irrigation potential and the power it would provide, but he was uneasy with its $450 million price tag. For this reason, he supported a 290 ft (88 m) "low dam" instead of the 550 ft (168 m) "high dam".[23] He provided $63 million in federal funding, while Washington State provided $377,000.[20] In 1933, Washington governor Clarence Martin set up the Columbia Basin Commission to oversee the dam project,[24] and Reclamation was selected to oversee construction.[23]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Coulee_Dam

Where did the money come from for other dams?

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-05-31-mn-9239-story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Canyon_Dam

https://www.desertusa.com/colorado/lm_nra/davis_dam/du_davisdam.html

Major power projects have almost always relied on help from federal, state and industry financing or cash.

https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/economic-aspects/economics-of-nuclear-power.aspx

 

[SnoKing]

Too funny on the wind mills. I stay just a few miles from them near Palm Springs, CA in the Winter. Since arriving 10/28 those wind mills have hardly moved. A couple of windy days but that's it.

They are constantly failing or simply falling to the ground.

A lot of those in PS are what one would call the original implementation of wind mills. Been over the Tehachapi on 58 lately?

 

[TFucili]

You can hardly get to an RV pump at Flying J so as it is, just imagine herds of dweebs hooking wienermobiles up to "fast chargers" for an hour or more at a time. They can wish in one hand and..., but internal combustion is not going away any time soon.

 

[HVAC2]

You can hardly get to an RV pump at Flying J so as it is, just imagine herds of dweebs hooking wienermobiles up to "fast chargers" for an hour or more at a time. They can wish in one hand and..., but internal combustion is not going away any time soon.

Good point. Its always a challenge to get fuel, especially along the west coast. What could happen is fewer pumps and more chargers.

 

[Wiredawg]

I have 51 solar panels on the mancave rated at 15.3KW. Electric bills were ~$450/ mo 7 mos a yr down to $180 worst month. It would not be paying for itself if not for the $33K in govt and power company incentives. And because I'm not in a COOP, I get paid only $.03 a KWH I sell back to power company. Decentralized power grid is big in TX with all the sunny days.

Cheers, Ron

 

[JR]

The public quick charging problem wouldn't be quite as bad as you would think. Given the fact that most slow charge at home or work and most don't run past the 350-500 mile ranges before returning home to be able to recharge. Of course this Doesn't negate the fact the electricity still has to come from somewhere or that it puts a major strain on an outdated infrastructure.

But to the point of the public charging station, there is a large Tesla dealership in Cleveland which is one county over. I've yet to see a public charging station in my entire county, yet I see more and more of the cars around. I spot one almost weekly these days.

And let's not forget oil companies are able to write off 100% of the costs associated with drilling a new well. Tax breaks and subsidies are very common place in all forms of energy.

 

[JR]

I have 51 solar panels on the mancave rated at 15.3KW. Electric bills were ~$450/ mo 7 mos a yr down to $180 worst month. It would not be paying for itself if not for the $33K in govt and power company incentives. And because I'm not in a COOP, I get paid only $.03 a KWH I sell back to power company. Decentralized power grid is big in TX with all the sunny days.

Cheers, Ron

I'm experimenting small scale solar on an outdoor wood burner. Once I'm confident in the set up I'll totally cut the cord to the house. Main reason for this is not wanting to have to worry about dragging a generator out to power the small induction blowers when/if the power goes out. Depending on how this works out I'd love to set up a couple of my outbuildings the same that currently don't have power. The problem here is sun can be real hit and miss. Especially in the winter when were lucky to see 9 hours of daylight.

 

[Ozymandias]

You can hardly get to an RV pump at Flying J so as it is, just imagine herds of dweebs hooking wienermobiles up to "fast chargers" for an hour or more at a time. They can wish in one hand and..., but internal combustion is not going away any time soon.

This problem already exists in europe, people lining up on chargers, crying for power.
First fights appeared recently about who was the first that arrived at the charger.

 

[EDankievitch]

How did the largest power producing dam in the US get built. Answer with Federal and State dollars.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who took office in March, 1933, supported the dam because of its irrigation potential and the power it would provide, but he was uneasy with its $450 million price tag. For this reason, he supported a 290 ft (88 m) "low dam" instead of the 550 ft (168 m) "high dam".[23] He provided $63 million in federal funding, while Washington State provided $377,000.[20] In 1933, Washington governor Clarence Martin set up the Columbia Basin Commission to oversee the dam project,[24] and Reclamation was selected to oversee construction.[23]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Coulee_Dam

Where did the money come from for other dams?

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-05-31-mn-9239-story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Canyon_Dam

https://www.desertusa.com/colorado/lm_nra/davis_dam/du_davisdam.html

Major power projects have almost always relied on help from federal, state and industry financing or cash.

https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/economic-aspects/economics-of-nuclear-power.aspx

Isn’t part of that Green Bill to remove all the Dams ? people are really living in a dream world if they think they can walk n away from the internal combustion engines.

 

[Newsa]

This problem already exists in europe, people lining up on chargers, crying for power.
First fights appeared recently about who was the first that arrived at the charger.

I wonder how heavy a battery pack would be?

They need to have a universal fit battery pack so you can swithch out a spent one for a charged one. That way you don't need to wait.

 

[TFucili]

Isn’t part of that Green Bill to remove all the Dams ? people are really living in a dream world if they think they can walk n away from the internal combustion engines.

Yes, hydro power is practical and proven, so the eco-dumbos want to remove the dams

 

[TFucili]

Good point. Its always a challenge to get fuel, especially along the west coast. What could happen is fewer pumps and more chargers.

notgonnahappen.com

 

[Ozymandias]

Isn’t part of that Green Bill to remove all the Dams ? people are really living in a dream world if they think they can walk n away from the internal combustion engines.

Not all of them, just the old worn down ones that are not worth to keep. Same in Switzerland.

 

[Ozymandias]

I wonder how heavy a battery pack would be?

They need to have a universal fit battery pack so you can swithch out a spent one for a charged one. That way you don't need to wait.

Doesnt work out at all because it goes i to a chaotic system.
Think about it if 10 cars demand a battery at the same time, what does the eleventh one do, wait a couple hours?
Also on some stations batterys would pile up and others are empty?
Not working.

The E-Scooters in the big citys are a good example for this, everyone wants them in the main city, then they drive to the suburbs and there they stay. Then some employees go with vans, pick them up and bring them back to the city center.