Ramifier TST stack

[MikeS1]

Can somebody please tell me when you stack these two boxes does all the Ramifier connections go before the TST or the opposite. Thanks, Mike

 

[GWoody]

I always plug the TST in first.

 

[strokerschmoker]

I always plug the TST in first.

Same here.

 

[MikeS1]

I finally got ahold of TS Perforrmance and they said that with their box it needs to be plugged in before the TST because they change all the map and fuel pressure signals, have you guy's tried to run it with he Ramifier 1st?? Mike

 

[moolie]

hey mike u gonna go run today or what. go lambifier

 

[Tomeygun]

I finally got ahold of TS Perforrmance and they said that with their box it needs to be plugged in before the TST because they change all the map and fuel pressure signals, have you guy's tried to run it with he Ramifier 1st?? Mike

Ahh, 1st where? into the harness or the engine



If the ramifier modulates the boost output signal, then the TST will not fuel properly - because the signal to the TST (out of the ramifier) will be all over the board, only thing I can think of is if the ramifier tells the TST the boost is there and it is not, SMOKE CITY!



I still think tst first, they do not mess with the output signal, they just cap it to 21psi

 

[MikeS1]

I agree with you tomeygun I thought it smoked bad before but now whoooosh... . The TST is going first, what I meant about going before the TST was on the map sensor, I did run a 13. 24 last night though. Mike

 

[MikeS1]

hey mike u gonna go run today or what. go lambifier

What the heck is a lambifier Are there races today??

 

[MikeS1]

I just got back from swapping the connections and putting the TST 1st on the map and it still smoked like a freight train until these twins start going; 10X what it did with the EZ on 4, so I called and talked to Chris @ TS Performance and he told me that the Ramifier needs to go 1st, so I asked him about how does the TST know when to fuel if you are changing all of those signals, he said that the fueling signal of the TST is a implied or set signal that they use, and in my opinion they use pretty well. Just FYI. Thanks for the help, I do appreciate it. Mike

 

[Tomeygun]

I just got back from swapping the connections and putting the TST 1st on the map and it still smoked like a freight train until these twins start going; 10X what it did with the EZ on 4, so I called and talked to Chris @ TS Performance and he told me that the Ramifier needs to go 1st, so I asked him about how does the TST know when to fuel if you are changing all of those signals, he said that the fueling signal of the TST is a implied or set signal that they use, and in my opinion they use pretty well. Just FYI. Thanks for the help, I do appreciate it. Mike

Thats kinda screwy - If the TS caps the output signal to read 21psi - And the TST fuels all ther way till 35psi... in theory you will never get the full pulse of the TST because the TS will never tell the TST higher than 21 psi.



wierd, Then again, I have no idea what the output signal is like on the TS, maybe the custom program dennis has does NOT cap PSI signal... .

 

[MikeS1]

What I meant to say was that Chris at TS said that the actual signal that the TST uses to fuel not the TS is a implied or set signal. Sorry I did not explain that very well I have never been a very good typer :-laf

 

[Tomeygun]

What I meant to say was that Chris at TS said that the actual signal that the TST uses to fuel not the TS is a implied or set signal. Sorry I did not explain that very well I have never been a very good typer :-laf

So your saying that Chris at TS said that the signal the PMCR uses to fuel is set, and not the signal of the map sensor - hmmm... - That would mean the ONLY reason the TST hooks to the map sensor is to cap the PSI signal, not to read it for fueling?



I think i've gone cross-eyed



Anyway, the stack runs great either way, right mike?

 

[Jeff_K]

Thats kinda screwy - If the TS caps the output signal to read 21psi - And the TST fuels all ther way till 35psi... in theory you will never get the full pulse of the TST because the TS will never tell the TST higher than 21 psi.



wierd, Then again, I have no idea what the output signal is like on the TS, maybe the custom program dennis has does NOT cap PSI signal... .

That make sense unless Mike is running the TST twins program, then it doesn't matter because the TST is all in at 12psi

 

[Tomeygun]

That make sense unless Mike is running the TST twins program, then it doesn't matter because the TST is all in at 12psi

ahh... very true, Gotta love that smoke show

 

[jglasgow]

Mike, How much boost are you making with your twin set up?

Thanks,

John

 

[MikeS1]

Thanks for all the feedback guy's, I was wondering why now on my digital gauges it will only read 0 to 21lbs of boost max, good thing I only use it for the pyro. So since I have the twins program in my TST, at 12lbs of boost the TST is giving all the fuel it is going to anyway right? In my opinion this stack is way better than the TST+EZ stack but tons of smoke down low until the twins come on, I went from a 13. 9 to a 13. 24 1/4 and I did not even have it turned up all the way.

 

[MikeS1]

Mike, How much boost are you making with your twin set up?

Thanks,

John

Hello John I run my setup to about 57lbs now, but I will be making some changes pretty soon to really get it up there. How much boost are you making with your twins and what kind are they? Mike

 

[jglasgow]

Mike, I'm using the Aurora 2000 by ATS on top(I think its a B1) and a B2 on the bottom. Before I got the external wastegate adjustable in the cab, I hit 74lbs of boost . Now I have it set at 60lbs. I don't know how far you can push it running just head studs but I'm sure I'll find out.

John

 

[MikeS1]

Mike, I'm using the Aurora 2000 by ATS on top(I think its a B1) and a B2 on the bottom. Before I got the external wastegate adjustable in the cab, I hit 74lbs of boost . Now I have it set at 60lbs. I don't know how far you can push it running just head studs but I'm sure I'll find out.

John

I have been told that the head gaskets in a 3rd gen are allot stronger than the 2nd gen's, I guess they have a steel insert in them but I have not heard exactly how much they will take before they pop. Mike

 

[AK RAM]

I have been seeing 67 lbs pretty regular at the track. No studs here and no problems..... yet. My best track times only produces 63lbs which is a little more in my comfort zone, so all is good. Piers recommended not bothering with studs unless you are going to see 70 lbs daily. That would be either 70lbs of boost or 70lbs of drive pressure. With studs he said you would be good to 85lbs. This is just on the 3rd Gen due to having a good MLS gasket factory. I may still do studs though just for piece of mind.



There is an adjustable Ramifier in the DTR classifieds for a 03/04 that says it has a special twins program on it for running it with the TST. What is that all about? Does a regular Ramifier not work well with the TST?