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Lately, we've been having a lot of Dodge/Cummins thefts, around here (Phoenix, AZ. ) I have been using a "Club" & a 'kill-switch', for protection.



Recently, I've been hearing about Ravelco's product & was wondering if any of you folks are using it & what your thoughts are regarding how effective it is.



The local installer wants about $520. 00 for the unit, installed. Is that a reasonable price?



Mostly, I'm interested in whether it works as well as advertised. They think it's the most effective anti-theft device on the market with no vehicle ever being stolen with their product in use.



Thanks.



Joe F. (Buffalo)
 
There are a lot of mistruths on Ravelco's promo material. I am familiar with some of the technical aspects to their claims of how to bypass some original security systems, and I can assure you that this company's claims aren't accurate. Remember, who is making the claims.
 
The Ravelco DOES work with factory and aftermarket alarms. The ONLY thing it does not work with is remote start. There is NO electrical component in the system therefore it does not use batteries or remotes. It kills certain key systems in the vehicle to totally disable it without the possibility of hot wiring it. It would be false advertising if it were bypassable and the owner of Ravelco would not have the reputation that he does.
 
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Ravelco install

I think i'm going to order one.



Since we have no dealer near here, I contacted Revelco and I was informed they

would sell me one for $199. 95 and estimated the installation cost to be between

$50 and $65 so it doesn't sound like a difficult installation.



I would like to ask those who have installed one to comment on the time/difficulty

of the install.



Thanks for any input.

Larry
 
Larry,

As a Ravelco distributor and I feel I say this from every distributor, do the installation correclty. PM me if you have any questions. I will be happy to guide you thru the procedure. I will not post any installation tips or tricks online but please feel free to contact me.
 
Sounds good

CBrahs said:
Larry,

As a Ravelco distributor and I feel I say this from every distributor, do the installation correclty. PM me if you have any questions. I will be happy to guide you thru the procedure. I will not post any installation tips or tricks online but please feel free to contact me.



Thanks for your helpful reply and offer :)



I'm going to order and read the instructions and if something is not clear I'll

take you up on your offer to contact you.



Larry
 
I wonder how much fun it would be to have an electrical problem with your truck and this product installed. I can just hear the Dodge Service Rep now... "... I don't know what you installed but we haven't got a clue how to fix it, but we will try $$$$$$$$. :D :D
 
bighornram said:
Hope you have your facts lined up because the Ravelco DOES NOT BYPASS ANY ORIGINAL SECURITY SYSTEMS and there are no mistruths about the material.



I'm not saying that hte ravelco system bypasses the stock systems. But the claims they elude of how easily the stock systems are bypassed are a little off.



Not to say the ravelco system doesn't work to some extent, just as a hidden switch will work to some extent. But just like the installation of this device is important, how the hidden switch is done equally determines its effectiveness.
 
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You would be amazed on how easy the stock system or aftermarket alarms are to bypass. Why are the thieves saying (at least around here) that the dodge truck is the easiest to steel and the ford does not even have a chipped key! For a couple hundred $$ you can have everything you need to break into a truck and bypass the stock or aftermarket alarms. Most factory or aftermarket alarms 99. 99 % of the connections are made under that dash and those wires are accessable. For most aftermarket alarms, finding the red wire (and 99. 99% of them have the red wire) and disconnecting it bypasses the alarm when the brain box is found. switches can be found too. I would rather have a system that when and IF they got to the wires they shorted the systems out and popped fuses. . The thief is going to give up and leave to target an easier vehicle.
 
Using one here. It would be ugly to try and hot wire this system. Shielded cable, not easy to access. About the only thing I had to get use to, was removing the special plug every time I wish to make it secure. When removed the remote start will not work but alarms still function.

Tom
 
I'm getting mine installed this coming Saturday, eh Chris? I already have the Jimmijammers on all 4 doors, tailgate, and tail lights. I have a panic rack to protect the back window and block access there, and all my windows have a tinting material that keeps the glass from shattering and holds it together. Someone will have to work hard to get in my truck, and then the Ravelco will prevent them from starting it. I always back into parking spaces and turn my wheels. I always lock my doors with the switch on the driver's door, so they can't grab codes. The sentry key, well, I think that is easy to bypass with a $100 locksmith tool, so it's actually worthless. I'm doing the best I can do to prevent theft, after that, what can I say.



CD
 
CD,

You are scheduled for this saturday. We have 4 confirmed scheduled for saturday and 1 for sunday. I know there will be more so I have 4 total installers going to be there. Myself, Jeff and a couple Technicians that work at a dealer and an indepentanct shop. See you there and drive safe!



Chris
 
Keep talking, I was planning on getting a Ravelco soon. It sure sounds like a good idea, especially if what they advertise is true, no hotwiires since inception. That sounds good enough for me, espicially if I put another decent alarm on it!
 
RAxley.



Something tells me you really would not need a secondary alarm. I bet by now, after all the years the Ravelco units have been around, thieves probably look for the window stickers, peek inside to see if the plug is there, and then just move on to some other less-protected vehicle. The guys that rip off cars and trucks do know what not to screw with, the word has to be out to just pass them by. The only way they could take your truck is with a flatbed, and all you have to do is always size up where/how you park so a flatbed could not get at it.



I've seen flatbeds used in reposessions, they drag them on with the alarm systems turned on. Not a beep out of the alarms in most instances. I know a couple towing companies that do repos, they tell me that if the brake is on, wheels turned, transmission in gear, and backed into a parking place with a curb - well, they wait for a more opportune time to repo. All that adds up, too much hastle.



CD
 
LSteiner said:
Since we have no dealer near here, I contacted Revelco and I was informed they

would sell me one for $199. 95 and estimated the installation cost to be between

$50 and $65 so it doesn't sound like a difficult installation.

If it can be installed for 50-65 $ it cant take too long to un-install it. Some one please show me VERIFIABLE PROOF how a sentry key system can be over ridden for $150. Also proof that skim equipped trucks have been driven away not towed when stolen.



Thanks Bob
 
Stickin with the post, I have a Ravelco and the truck is still here. I paid around $500. 00 installed. Thought it was a good insurance plan, hopefully it never gets tested.
 
I spent a little time researching alarm systems years ago. I decided on the Viper for my Miata. By the time I added a few of the additional modules ie:motion detection, glass break, and had it installed, it was a costly addition. Today, that same system is just right at double the cost. I have had it upgraded as better units came along. It has been a good, functional alarm system. I am considering adding the Ravelco to my car.



I have a friend who is a locksmith, he has one of those Sentry Key reading units. I asked him about the unit and it's capabilities - he said "Let me show you", so we went out to my truck and he read my chip, made me a new key, and I still to this day use it as my main key. It worked perfectly and still does. I can buy wone of these key units today on the internet, no questions asked. I was amazed just how easily a unit can be purchased.



He also has an alarm code reading unit. He can turn it on, push a couple buttons, it reads the car he is standing next to, and then he just pushes a button and the doors unlock AND the factory alarm disables simultaneously. He tells me that it is a little more difficult with aftermarket alarms, he can buy alarm company specific modules for his unit and then it all works the same as factory units. He also went on to say that pretty much all alarm companies and installers install a disable switch the same way and in the same place, no biggie. He sent me to the website that sells all this stuff, that's where he bought his, an they sell to anyone. He learned about the website from a friend that owns a tow truck who does repos.



My point I guess is that anyone can get this stuff and steal your vehicle if that is their intent. I know people who have had their vehicles stolen with Sentry Keys and Alarms in place. I also know someone with just the Ravelco unit, their door was damaged by the initial entry but whomever broke into the truck could not get it started with a screwdriver in the ignition. They had some damage, repaired, all done. Now that person has the Jimmijammers installed.



I personally am not going to spend time debating all the stuff that is now coming up in this thread. If you guys need answers to your questions, do a search regarding your questions and concerns and find out what it is you need to know. More than likely even if someone did give you the answers you are seeking, you would continue to debate regardless. Instead of seeking PROOF, try it from another angle PROVE THEM WRONG. Do your homework, make your choices, go with what trips your trigger.



CD
 
CDonaldson said:
I spent a little time researching alarm systems years ago. I decided on the Viper for my Miata. By the time I added a few of the additional modules ie:motion detection, glass break, and had it installed, it was a costly addition. Today, that same system is just right at double the cost. I have had it upgraded as better units came along. It has been a good, functional alarm system. I am considering adding the Ravelco to my car.



I have a friend who is a locksmith, he has one of those Sentry Key reading units. I asked him about the unit and it's capabilities - he said "Let me show you", so we went out to my truck and he read my chip, made me a new key, and I still to this day use it as my main key. It worked perfectly and still does. I can buy wone of these key units today on the internet, no questions asked. I was amazed just how easily a unit can be purchased.



He also has an alarm code reading unit. He can turn it on, push a couple buttons, it reads the car he is standing next to, and then he just pushes a button and the doors unlock AND the factory alarm disables simultaneously. He tells me that it is a little more difficult with aftermarket alarms, he can buy alarm company specific modules for his unit and then it all works the same as factory units. He also went on to say that pretty much all alarm companies and installers install a disable switch the same way and in the same place, no biggie. He sent me to the website that sells all this stuff, that's where he bought his, an they sell to anyone. He learned about the website from a friend that owns a tow truck who does repos.



My point I guess is that anyone can get this stuff and steal your vehicle if that is their intent. I know people who have had their vehicles stolen with Sentry Keys and Alarms in place. I also know someone with just the Ravelco unit, their door was damaged by the initial entry but whomever broke into the truck could not get it started with a screwdriver in the ignition. They had some damage, repaired, all done. Now that person has the Jimmijammers installed.



I personally am not going to spend time debating all the stuff that is now coming up in this thread. If you guys need answers to your questions, do a search regarding your questions and concerns and find out what it is you need to know. More than likely even if someone did give you the answers you are seeking, you would continue to debate regardless. Instead of seeking PROOF, try it from another angle PROVE THEM WRONG. Do your homework, make your choices, go with what trips your trigger.



CD

EVERYTHING you have said here is hearsay. You could give us contact info if it was legit :-laf :-laf

It apears to me you do not understand the skim key system... ... the key does not get programmed... ... ... . I am calling bs on this one. What you seem to be describing is an OLDER GM system ;)



Bob
 
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