Read This: Oil Additives

[ChrisKringle]

http://www.naaaccc.ca/oil_additives_.htm





Makes you even wonder about 'Amsoil'

 

[AKaiser]

Makes you even wonder about 'Amsoil'

Not really. This writeup was about aftermarket oil additives and their claims, not synthetic oil. I doubt that Amsoil is using a substantially different additive package than, say Valvoline Premium Blue synthetic, for example. They may use different base stocks, or not, but the additives should be similar. Amsoil itself warns against the use of aftermarket oil additives. Google "amsoil snake oil" and see what it comes up with. You know, competitive automotive racing teams use the stuff, and Amsoil warrants it's use when proper (to spec).

 

[amsoilman]

This is a VERY OLD article, and is talking about the "Aftermarket" additives. It is NOT talking about the additives that are part of an oils makeup!



You must also remember when an oil Company formulates Engine oils, there are about 5 quality levels they can choose from and still be in compliance with the API and SAE specs.

 

[Gil Moncrief]

There is a family of aftermarket oil additives that actually performs as it promises. They can be viewed at:

www.sfrcorp.com

Using a high pressure bearing test machine, every engine oil tested alone, including some of the expensive synthetics, would support only 6 to 7 weights before failing. The addition of the SFR product to any of the oils at the recommended dilution (5%) resulted in the ability to support the maximum weightload of 20 weights ( approx. 42,000 psi) with minimal wear on the bearing surface. The product actually does reduce friction which results in less heat and better fuel economy. Believe it or not. I have been using the product in a fleet and in my personal vehicles and boats for 17 years. My

89 first gen Getrag 5 spd has only had a starter replaced in nearly 500,000 miles. Trans and rear end have the product in them as well. The truck towed heavy trailers for the 360,000 miles. I believe the trans and rear end would have required rebuilds before now without the use of these products. Not all additives are snake oil. Just most of them.

 

[ChrisKringle]

That stuff actually look beneficial. Made up of friction modifiers, extreme pressure agents, detergents, etc. Wonder if it would help or hurt my Amsoil? 1 o. z. per gallon.



Another good lube is Krytox by Dupont. Developed for NASA to adhear to surfaces in zero gravity environments, whereas conventional grease 'creeps'. Watched a show on Discovery about lubricants and they showed regular grease melting and catching fire with a torch, but the Krytox did even change color.



http://www.dupont.com/lubricants/en/index.html

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I especially liked THIS quote:

The Psychological Placebo

You have to wonder, with the volume of evidence accumulating against oil additives, why so many of us still buy them. That's the million-dollar question, and it's just as difficult to answer as why so many of us smoke cigarettes, drink hard liquor or engage in any other number of questionable activities. We know they aren't good for us - but we go ahead and do them anyway.



Part of the answer may lie in what some psychiatrists call the "psychological placebo effect. " Simply put, that means that many of us hunger for that peace of mind that comes with believing we have purchased the absolute best or most protection we can possibly get.



Even better, there's that wonderfully smug feeling that comes with thinking we might be a step ahead of the pack, possessing knowledge of something just a bit better than everyone else.



Then again, perhaps it comes from an ancient, deep-seated need we all seem to have to believe in magic. There has never been any shortage of unscrupulous types ready to cash in on our willingness to believe that there's some magical mystery potion we can buy to help us lose weight, grow hair, attract the opposite sex or make our engines run longer and better. I doubt that there's a one of us who hasn't fallen for one of these at least once in our lifetimes. We just want it to be true so bad that we can't help ourselves.

That really fits quite a few members on this board, who have their own pet lubes, filters, and other aftermarket gadgets of various brands and types - and promote and defend them with great zeal as "the best you can get and use" on these trucks...



Yeah - I'm guilty as the next guy! :-laf :-laf

 

[Deerezilla]

yep so am I but I will not use that stuff just herd to much bad about it. I have been running schaffers in farm equipment for years I have a JD tractor thats 200 hp that has over 15k hr never be opened up. I have a few others that have around 6k hr but I use the 7000 series 15-w40 in all my trucks and equipment

 

[Gil Moncrief]

Regarding the SFR products, I plan to use my 06 4x4 6spd. to do a scientific experiment with and without SFR. I will do oil analysis pre and post introduction of the products to the engine and drive train. I will keep hand calculated logs of fuel economy. I am waiting for the engine to break in fully before starting the project. If you put it in the engine too soon, it will not break in. I will post my results for anyone who is interested.

 

[ChrisKringle]

So anyone running the SFR stuff with good luck?