Recaps?????????????

[mwilson]

I post all these part numbers and prices to help you all source a good deal in your area.

I don't wish to tread on any supporting vendors toes if I can help it.

My intent is not to sell parts on this forum but if there is no conflict with this particular item then maybe it is OK in this case.



The price that I listed above is lowball and can offer it for one or several. UPS charges from my part of the world might eat up any savings from a large buy.

Wait until we settle on a hose length, etc. and for me to get a valid part number from Link-Mate if 12" is going to be the ticket.

Then I will post the number and you all can call a few truck dealers to see what their deal would be.



If you all get unreasonable pricing when you check locally then I will (with everybody's blessing) see what we can do.

Is that fair???



Thanks,

Mike.

 

[BIGNASTY]

California Road Gator's

If you use recaps I would't run them in the heat going out to Blythe/Needles/every summer you could see the annual migration of the Calif Road Gator's . As far as running them on the front I think that's against the law.

 

[HBarlow]

Mike,

Thank you for your answer and assistance but I don't think I want to spend $300+ for the Cat's Eye system. I can still check the tires occasionally with a gauge.

I have never had a tire failure and only one nail puncture that allowed a front tire to go flat while parked. When I was transporting I never even experienced a nail puncture.

 

[mwilson]

Harvey,

That kit does one axle or both sides, however you want to look at it so it would be $152. 99 to do a 1-ton.

I think you figured it took one for each set of duals. ?. ?



I should have explained that in more detail in the pricing post.



Mike.

 

[HBarlow]

Yes, I did. Probably due to my ignorance not your description. In that case, I may want to order one from you.

My wife and I are leaving tomorrow for a 10 day wander with the trailer. She always has some time off at Christmas because the students are gone and the university is shut down so it is a time for her to get away and relax and see a change of scenery for a few days.

If my feeble brain doesn't forget, I'll look into this again when we return home.

 

[Bob Cochran]

. As far as running them on the front I think that's against the law.

I think this is true statement for commercial vehicles per DOT rules. No such law or rule I know of for anyone else.

At least in my State Arizona but possible for other States I don't about them.

 

[WilsonF]

There was a thread about recaps awhile back. Treadwright got good reviews from actual users.

Floyd

 

[mgonske]

Treadwright

I'm on my second set of Treadwright snow tires--run them nine months out of the year, including towing the Jeep to Moab. I've been very happy with their snow performance, and have had no problems with them. Also have a local friend who runs them on his 04. 5 2500.



I've also run tire pressure monitoring systems for over ten years (ever since I got the fifth-wheel and immediately started having blowout problems), and swear by them (I use the SmartTire brand).

 

[Bob Cochran]

I have to revise this statement. After some investigation I think the no recaps rule in DOT only apply to buses used for carrying passengers.

I think this is true statement for commercial vehicles per DOT rules. No such law or rule I know of for anyone else.



At least in my State Arizona but possible for other States I don't about them.

 

[Barry]

Just talked to one of the local Bandag dealers. He quoted me $134 to retread MY casings with the BDR/AS tread. The tread depth is 22/32nds. I'm giving a lot of thought to running those on my drive axle.



They should run a minimum of 100K miles... ... ... ..... One of my concerns is the casings were made in '07... ... ... ... ... which makes them already over 3 years old. I run 50 to 60K a year... ..... so the casings would be over 5 years old when I am done... ... ... ... ...

 

[CDonaldson]

Brand new tires can have a tread failure, in fact, a study was done analyzing those ROAD GATORS found along our highways and the large majority of them were not recaps but were brand new tires.



I would not worry about retreading virgin casings, regardless of age, as long as you have maintained your tire pressure correctly and have no contributed to what could be associated with sidewall failure all the time you have been running your tires, they should be good to go as retreads.



I am planning on buying a good set of 6 new tires, they should be regrovable at a point in time, then when they get to the point where they need retreading, I will get them done. Buy 2 new tires for the steer axle, and go with my own sidewalls for the retreads to be used on the drive axle.







CD

 

[CharlieFoxtrot]

which makes them already over 3 years old. I run 50 to 60K a year... ..... so the casings would be over 5 years old when I am done... ... ... ... ...

Rule of thumb is to not cap a casing more than 6 years old. On the fleet of semitrailers I used to run, we didn't get a lot of miles, so I had virgin tires up to (or over!) 12 years old. They blew out a lot! So I weeded out the 12-year-olds, then the 10's, etc. When I had no tires more than 6 years old (whether virgin or caps), my problems pretty much stopped.



Bottom line, absolutely no worries about your 5-year-old casings after the first retread. If the casings are in good shape, I might even cap them a second time...



HTH

kevin

 

[Barry]

All of what has been said is kind of what I have been thinking. I am going to run a quality tire on the front until it needs to be moved to the back and re-grooved which should give another 40 or 50K miles... ... ... ... then cap it with a drive tread.



I am giving it all a lot of consideration... ... ... ... ... .....

 

[Matt42]

Jim Jelag has posted many times that when he ran a small fleet of light trucks with employee drivers pulling heavy trailers he always used new tires on the fronts and (I think) Bandag recaps on the rears. All were drw and he has said he always ran each truck at least 500k miles before he traded the truck. He said he got very good reliablility and wear out of them.



More than ten years ago I visited the local Lubbock Bandag dealer and asked about running Bandag retreads on the rear axle of my then Furd F-250. The company spokesman recommended against it. I was surprised. Perhaps the technology or results have improved since then.



If Michelin made XPS Ribs in 17" sizes I would consider recapping the grooved steer tires and running them on the back of my C&C with a drive axle tread pattern. I like the ordinary Michelins I use now but am not sure I would want to recap them. They are not an all steel casing.

Uggh. I'm in agreement with the Lubbock Bandag dealer, even ten years later. The truck tires used on 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks, even though they are LT or Light Truck rated, are really a consumer grade, not a commercial grade. (I am not using technical terms here. ) Once we get up into tires in the 19. 5 inch and larger diameter sizes, tires are commercial and made differently. (The Michelin XPS type tires really don't fit this off-the-wall analysis). ) Also, people using the 19. 5 and larger tires tend to (we hope) take better care of them and use them more continuously, so the casings will be younger at retreading time.



I buy Michelin LTX tires in 16 inch diameter. In my case, they outdate before they wear out. But even if they wore out, they would probably be too old anyway. The price spread between retreading and new would not be large enough to justify the risk of retreading old casings never meant to be retreaded, and used in a nasty hot climate.



But what do I know?

 

[WDaniels]

I have been running retreads on all 4 on my 97 for the last 8 years. The retreader does not redo just any tire. They will only do TOYO Hyper radials and some Bridgestones. This is due to their stiffer side walls. My first set was TOYO's and I had them recapped 3 times. The sidewalls were starting to check with small cracks and I had to get another set. These ones are Bridgestones and are still on the truck. Drove it from here to Florida and back to Seattle with no problems with tread seperation at all. The only thing with retreads is the balancing. It takes more weight to balance the caps.

WD

 

[Barry]

In researching Bandags website, I find "A" B" C" codes for things like tread wear, rolling resistance, traction, etc.



Anyone hip on the code structure?

 

[mwilson]

Tried to find something to attach quickly, but no luck.



Goodyear doesn't use that system.



It appears that "A" is best, then it's down from there.



Looks like a marketing tool more than a regulation.



Mike.