Relocate oil filter

[shamrock]

I can get an oil filter relocation kit for a gasoline engine from J. C. Whitney for 45. 00, does anyone know where I can get one for a 99 Dodge Ram for less than 150. 00

 

[HC]

Sorry if I can't answer your question directly, but a couple of thoughts:
1) If you are just relocating the stock filter, is it really worth it? Any relocation kit brings with it more connections, hoses, fittings, etc that could blow or leak. Thus you will be trading a more convenient location for a slightly less bulletproof system. Be careful, the ISB runs some pretty high oil pressures, that is why Fleetguard redesigned the filter casings for the 1998. 5 and up trucks.
2) On the other hand, if you search on "bypass filter" you will probably find info on both Amsoil and other bypasses. This would both relocate the filter(s), and, give you far superior oil filtration. A few folks have reported leaks, but not many, and with this set up you get something "extra" in addition to the better location.
These are just my thoughts, so if you already know exactly what you want then please excuse me for sounding like the typical salesperson and trying to point you in a different direction...

 

[shamrock]

The reason I want to relocate the filter is , I have a walker airsep on the engine , and everytime I or someone else changes the oil, I have to disconnect the airsep, because you can't take the filter out. I have searched websites for relocation kits, but for diesels they run around 200. 00 dollars and I can't see why they should cost so much more.
Also on the subject of oil filters, I had 2 that leaked around the top, and on these boards they said use a Dodge filter because they are built stronger. Well the second one that leaked was a Dodge filter. I talked to a heavy equipment diesel mechanic and he said you have to make sure the filter is really tight. Since then I haven't had any more trouble. Surely Fram tests their filters and they are probably tested to 1 and a half times working pressure, I work on construction and everything we test is tested to that standard. So I don't think that 80 pounds pressure at start up should make any filter leak.

 

[Shelby Griggs]

Originally posted by shamrock:
The reason I want to relocate the filter is , I have a walker airsep on the engine , and everytime I or someone else changes the oil, I have to disconnect the airsep, because you can't take the filter out

Shamrock,

How do you like the Walker AirSep? Any comments or feed back would be great. Been looking for someone that has this mod.

TIA

Shelby


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[shamrock]

Shelby;
I like it. I had to get it because the Cummins engine is only rated for 17 degrees nose down , and because I work on pipeline right of ways that some times are 25 to 30 degrees I had to get it. Without it the engine pumps oil out the breather tube when the nose is down more than 17 degrees. Any other questions?

 

[Shelby Griggs]

I have heard various degrees of slope quoted before the engine pukes. I may have to go the route you did. You might have picked up from my handle that I am a land surveyor. I have traversed steeper ground than that before (17°). Can you confirm the 17°? We are not talking about 17% are we? Have you heard of any other solutions for this problem? I have thought of relocating the vent tube. It seems that if the tube was vented at the rear bumper it would be higher than the engine when on a steep downward incline.

Where does the oil go with the Walker setup. I know it separates the oil out of the vent vapor, but if you are steep downhilling, won't you be dumping liquid oil into the AirSep? Does it really do a clean job? I am worried about an oil film on the turbo and intercooler. How about service? I understand the AirSep has a filter that needs replaced at 75K intervals. What does that cost?

Obviously it is a problem changing your oil filter. Are there any other interference problems?

Sorry for all of the questions, but because of my line of work, I may have to get one of these and have a lot of reservations about doing so.

Thanks again.

Shelby

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2001. 5 2500 QC LB 4WD, ETH, DEE, 3. 54 gears, Laramie SLT, Camper Special, Trailer Tow, Travel Convenience Group, Power Driver Seat, Alarm System, Remote Keyless Entry, Fog Lamps, Cab Clearance Lamps, HD Transfer Case, Bright White with a Gray Interior. Built 09-15-00, took delivery on 10-06-00, 1749 miles as of 11-25-00. Custom aluminum work body / flat bed. Coming soon: E-Brake and gauges.

 

[shamrock]

Surveyor Shelby, I will try to answer all of your questions. First we are talking degrees as measured with a protractor, not percent. Second I called Cummins engine when I first had this problem and talked to an engineer, who said the engine is only certified to operate up to 17 degrees nose down. Third, after 17 degrees the engine pumps oil out the vent tube , so no matter where the other end of the tube is , you don't have enough oil in the engine, my oil pressure dropped to zero the first time this happened to me , I quickly shut it down. The next thing I did was move the vent to the valve cover, I drilled a 3/4 inch hole in the drivers side on the third buldge back from the front, And found out why Cummins doesn't put it there, Puting a clear pepsi bottle on the vent tube , I drove 60 miles and had 2 teaspoons of oil in the bottle, too much oil to throw overboard. So I bought a Walker Airsep and installed it. For the Walker Airsep you have to use a vent hole in the valve cover, plug the original hole with a short piece of hose with a wooden dowell inside, with 2 hose clamps on it. After installing the Airsep on the turbo you have to cut a 1/2 inch strip off the airhose, but try it first and maybe omit this step. The oil is drained back into the crankcase where the turbo oil draines back, they give you a fitting to combine the two. When you push the airhose on the Airsep it hits the back of the Alternator, and you first have to move a fitting on the back of the alternator, no big deal, The first time you do this It is really hard to get the airhose on, and you have to make sure the bottom of the airhose is on the airsep, however after a few days the hose takes this shape and it isn't near as hard to take off or put on. The hose will be about 1/3 deformed where it hits the alternator , but I talked to W. A. and they said it doesn't hurt performance ( I know ,they sell them) but I haven't noticed any differance. Yes there is an oil film on the turbo blades, and probably in the intercooler. Did you know Cummins install's the W. A. on their Marine engines as standard equipment? So maybe the oil in the intercooler doesn't hurt anything. As far as replacing the filter , I would just wash it out with a degreaser once in a while, the filter I think is fiberglass . Any more Questions?

 

[Shelby Griggs]

Shamrock,

Thanks for the details.

Shelby