Rotella DFA

[jberelson]

Anyone use Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additive)? I've been using Stanadyne Perf. Formula but it is easier going to W*l-M**t than trying to find Stanadyne...



Josh

 

[DarrellB]

Yep

Josh. been using it since the first of October. I used Stanadyne before the DFA and notice no difference between the two both work just fine. The Rotella is a little cheaper and comes in big jugs. Just dump 12oz. in with a full tank of fuel and your good to go.



Big D

 

[Jeff Knight]

I just started using it. I bought the first qt at Wal Mart. Then I bought 2 cases at Sams club. A lot cheaper by the case. I've seen a slight increase in fuel mileage with it. Jeff

 

[gtobey]

Just a word about additives. I communicated with an engineer at Stanadyne about additives, and have done some research about it. He said that they have been making their additive and improving it since the late 70's, early 80's. They make fuel injection equipment, and know how to protect it since fuels have changed and sulfur content has been mandated lower for emissions. I have used the Performance Formula since the early 80's and have operated several near 200,000 mile vehicles without a fuel pump failure! I know it works! This additive is one of the few endorsed and recommended by Ford, GM, Navistar, Deere, Caterpillar, VW, Volvo Penta, and AM General. Short term improvements don't mean much with fuel additives. Longevity and protection are the keys. These can't be measured in quick terms. Good luck!

 

[EShaw]

gtobey,

Where is it that you work?????????... ... . Thought so

In both of your posts you are anti-additive... ... but you like Stanadyne. You also talk about the unmeasurable benefits..... I understand what your talking about because Duralt has the same effect/benefit..... but I haven't brought that up in this thread. I want the guys to go to the site and read for themselves.



Now to the meat and potatoes... ... ... ...

If I were you (and for right now I'm glad I'm not) I would refrain from scare tactics to promote another product. We don't like that much here on TDR. As for the Engineer... ... is he a chemical engineer for Stanadyne? How much does he really know about Duralt? Duralt provides lubricity for the pump as well... ... . also happens that we get some more miles from a tankful... ... . I guess Stanadyne and a few other DFA companies don't like it much... ..... 12 ounces per tankful of their stuff VS. 1. 5 ozs. of Duralt.



What I'd like you to answer directly gtobey is what is your motivation here? What do you stand to gain by bad mouthing one product and promoting another? I see that you are new to TDR and that makes me a little suspicious of your motivation.



In closing... ..... If I have misjudged you... ... . just as I have made this post... ... ... I will post an apology... ... ...

Eric

 

[jberelson]

Is the reason you want me to buy Stanadyne from Blue Ridge Diesel is because you work there????



Sorry Charlie, $4. 24 a bottle is good, but doesn't make it worth it with shipping to WA from VA.



Josh

 

[Pit Bull]

I've been using Rotella DFA since Oct. 2001. Get it at Sam's club for $33. 00 a case (4-1 gallon bottles). They also have a coupon for $8. 00 refund on the Rotella web site. Makes it real cheap. It also works out to 1 oz to 3 gallons of diesel. I went with DFA for two reasons, I use Rotella 15w40 oil in my truck, and the DFA was cheap. Also what is this problem with gtobey? He is just giving an opinion like everyone else on this site. I did not read anything scary in his post. If you want scary read the oil or transmission posts lighten up.

 

[jberelson]

I was just commenting on the price...



Josh

 

[Pit Bull]

Originally posted by EShaw





gtobey,

Where is it that you work?????????... ... . Thought so



Eric

Eric, I just read gtobey's profile. I see what you mean. He works for the company he is promoting without making that clear. You should of spelled that out, it would make it easier for us old guys to get your point. gtobey, just a suggestion, in the future let everyone know you have a dog in the hunt. It makes your information more complete. Nothing wrong with pushing your company, just let everyone know it up front.

 

[gtobey]

Hey guys. I am new to the tdr, and thusly stand corrected. Sorry about any promotion, and now understand the ground rules for promotions in the postings.



I have been in the fuel injection industry since 1971, working hands on in remanufacturing pumps and injectors. I have seen some good and some not so good additives, and the results. I am not an engineer, but speak from some experience with this brand. As an informed and educated shopper, I think one should also check locally and elsewhere to see what prices you can get on any product. As another fellow said, shipping costs can sometimes make things too expensive.





Eric, thanks for the information, and after communicating with the engineer from Stanadyne, he told me that they had not run any tests on the Duralt, but to beware of an additive that works on both gas and diese. Are there any technical specs available as far as lubrication and cetane boosts?

 

[Pit Bull]

Originally posted by gtobey





Hey guys. I am new to the tdr, and thusly stand corrected. Sorry about any promotion, and now understand the ground rules for promotions in the postings.

Don't worry about it gtobey, just wanted you to get a heads up so you don't get flamed in the future. You will see that things get pretty wild on some of these debates. Sounds like you have a great back ground and will be a real asset to the discussions. If you know anything about the VP44 or the lift pump your comments will be of great value. I think you will see that people are trying about every idea they can come up with to make the injections system more dependable. Sounds like that might be right down your alley. Welcome to the TDR

 

[gtobey]

Thanks for the welcome/initiation. I will be glad to discuss any issues related to the pumps and injectors that I have experienced in work for the factories as an Association of Diesel Specialists Certified Technician. There are some things on the VP44 that have not been released yet, such as the calibration data and prioritized information. I own one of them, '02 Long Bed 2500 SLT ext cab. . 355 rears

 

[cullyguy]

I have recently switched from using Power Service to Rotella DFA. I am noticing a quieter running engine & about . 5 to 1. 0 better mpg. Sam's Club is the least expensive place to buy it, so far.

 

[EShaw]

gtobey,

I realize now I was extremely harsh... ..... I am sorry for setting you on fire like that... ... ... I would like to welcome you to the TDR and look forward to reading anything you have to share with us. We all grow when one shares... ... ... Again I'm sorry and welcome.

Eric

 

[me4osu]

Additives

Just my two cents... .



I have used Power Service for quite some time averaging a little over 16 MPG. Since I have started using Duralt, I'm down to 14. 8 MPG (highway only!!). I am on the third tank with Duralt, so I will give it a couple more tanks. If it does not at least match my previous fuel mileage, it gets poured only in the wife's Ford, and I'll go back to the Power Service. If it does not improve the fuel mileage of a 460, I definately will not replentish my supply.

 

[jpolston]

I don't use any additives and am currently getting over 30 mpg... ... 15+ going and 15+ coming back. Oo. Oo.

 

[fj40charles]

I'm sure Rotealla DFA is just fine. Can you imagine a large company like Shell putting out a crappy product? I'm sure they have deep enough pockets for research and probably analyzed differerent fuel additives to see how they were made. I think it just comes down to preference and availability.



Anyone know about Lucas fuel conditioner? I picked some up and I'm using it, but can't tell much difference. The only thing I've noticed was it is a little thick.



Thanks in advance,

Charles

 

[JStordahl]

Diesel burners: I've recently been using the DFA from Shell. Prior to that I've used Power Service and Stanadyne. They all seem to work well, and they all have the same aroma when opening the jug. I wonder how much difference there really is? Any John Deere dealer will carry Stanadyne, and Sam's Club is the place to get Shell DFA.

 

[RKohn]

The Lucas stuff is good, but harder than heck to pour in the winter.

I've gone back to the gray bottle PS. Might try a case of the DFA, just cause I love to shop at Sam's. Oo.

 

[CrewCabDiesel]

For what it is worth, the diesel shop that I have gotten my injection pump and turbo from recommends nothing but Stanadyne performace, and thats what I run period. I have too much money into my truck to short cut it now. I will continue to run the same old additive untill someone PROVES without a doubt in black and white that theirs is better, and it also has to have the blessing of Cummins. I know that it might sound thick headed, but it works for me. As for fuel milage the WORST I get is 15mpg towing a 29" 5th wheel AND a 16' boat in tadem. I normally get 19mpg city/highway and 25mpg just highway running 70mph. And thats with a REAL CREW CAB !!