rv washer dryer 220 v ?

[Aliff]

i have a 2005 cedar creek 362bbs fith wheel

so now its time to install a washer and dryer.



i have looked at everything avaliable to fit a 24 inch cabinet

and the only dryer that seems to be large enough are the 220

volt units.



i understand that this rv is 50 amp which means 2 110 legs.



my question is has anyone installed a 220 dryer in a rv and if so

how does this effect the reliability of the power source? ie kicking

breakers.



thank you in advance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[PWitteveen]

My brother just put a stackable washer and dryer in his RV. Both units were 110 volts. His rig uses 50 amp service, also. From what I understand, they don't recommend putting 220 volt dryers in RV's because of the power issues.

 

[RustyJC]

Other than the top end "all electric" motorhomes, 50 amp RVs do not use 220 VAC appliances. If you check the RV supply houses, you should be able to find stackable washer-dryer combos that use a 110 VAC dryer.



Rusty

 

[JStrasser]

Try Camping World:



120v W/D



single unit 120v



Or "RV Parts Outlet":



Stackable W/D



Hope this helps



John

 

[Aliff]

thanks for your response,however,i have looked at all of my options,and i would rather use a 220 dryer for size and drying time. my wife,newborne,and myself spend more than 220 days on the road per year and i know the smaller w/d units wouldnt be efficient.



has anyone wired for 220 in a 50 amp rv?

if so,pros?cons?







thank you

 

[Grizzly]

I don't know the answer to this, but is there such a thing as a LP gas dryer for an RV? A gas dryer for my home is our preference because of economy and efficiency.

 

[RJOL]

Maybe this site will help:



http://users3.ev1.net/~crossstitch/RVWiring/wiring.html



Good luck...

 

[K5IP]

Even though the 50A service uses (two legs) I believe they are both of the same phase. So, unlike residential service, the differential between them is 0, not 220VAC

Rog

 

[CUMMINZ]

Where are you going to get 220 in a campground?

 

[JStrasser]

Where are you going to get 220 in a campground?

Excellent question. I would imagine that you would have to make your own with a generator. Run a dedicated 220v line directly to the W/D. Not too popular in campgrounds, especially with the gen operating at WOT for the dryer.



When Cathy and I had our first apartment- we had a Sears one piece washer lower/ dryer upper 110v unit and we used cloth diapers for our daughter. We made do with the lack of 220v.



John

 

[CUMMINZ]

Rjol

The internet link you gave is actually a bad example for RVs. The last paragraph indicates 240 volts between legs. This is absolutely wrong for RVs and will be devastating to every appliance in the RV and maybe cause the rig to burn. Big Time burn.



CUMMINZ

 

[RustyJC]

The internet link you gave is actually a bad example for RVs. The last paragraph indicates 240 volts between legs. This is absolutely wrong for RVs and will be devastating to every appliance in the RV and maybe cause the rig to burn. Big Time burn.



CUMMINZ

Actually, the 2 each 120 VAC 50 amp legs should be 180 degrees out of phase, which produces 240 VAC between L1 and L2. If the 2 legs were in phase as you state, then the neutral leg current would be the sum (instead of the difference) between the 2 hot leg currents, and if both hot legs were drawing 50 amps, neutral leg current in your example would be 100 amps versus 0 amps where the legs are 180 degrees out of phase. Therefore, the situation where L1 and L2 are in phase creates the potential to overload the neutral leg, producing a fire hazard.



The appliances in an RV are 120 VAC and are connected either L1-N or L2-N, so they never see 240 VAC.



The internet link describing 120/240 VAC power is correct as stated. If you wish to verify this, look at the sticker at the shore power connection on a 50 amp RV - it will state that it is designed for connection to a 120/240 VAC power supply.



Rusty

 

[Grizzly]

Since no one has responded to my question I'll ask it again. What about an LP gas dryer for RV's? Is there such an appliance?

 

[RustyJC]

Even if you could find a gas dryer to fit the enclosure, it would have to be converted to propane. If shore power is available, electricity is free (i. e. , included in the daily or weekly rate), but propane isn't.



Rusty

 

[CUMMINZ]

Rusty

I am going to have to say you are wrong. If you put two seperate phases on L1 & L2 it will do harm to your RV. You use the same phase on both L1 & L2. You get your 50 amps from the seperate breakers. You go into your next campground and meter across both L1 & L2 you get 120 volts. If you use an adapter for 30 amp RV and plug it into a 30 amp plug on one end and plug the other end into your 30 foot long 50 amp cable to your RV you get 2 legs of the same phase into your RV.

 

[CUMMINZ]

Grizzly

I have never seen an LP fired dryer for an RV. You can get small apartment sized stackables that are natural gas. Are you really interested in economy while you are travelling?



CUMMINZ

 

[Aliff]

grizzley,

gas would be great,just tell me where to find a small 24 inch unit and ill get it.

ive looked everywhere and i dont think they are avaliable.



in my 01 toy hauler i have a maytag atlantis wash and lp dryer.

 

[RustyJC]

I am going to have to say you are wrong. If you put two seperate phases on L1 & L2 it will do harm to your RV. You use the same phase on both L1 & L2. You get your 50 amps from the seperate breakers. You go into your next campground and meter across both L1 & L2 you get 120 volts. If you use an adapter for 30 amp RV and plug it into a 30 amp plug on one end and plug the other end into your 30 foot long 50 amp cable to your RV you get 2 legs of the same phase into your RV.

You're right on the 2nd part - when you use a 50-to-30 dogbone adapter, you jumper the 2 each 50 amp busses together inside the RV so that you have 1 each 30 amp bus. You're in for a big surprise, though - if you put a meter across L1 and L2 on a 50 amp circuit, you should get 240 VAC if they are 180 degrees out of phase, as they should be. If they were in phase, you would get 0 VAC from L1 to L2 as you're just reading 2 points on the same leg.



The following is from the RVBasics website.

An RV power pedestal 50 amp outlet has two 120 volt legs that supply current to the RV plus a neutral and ground. Each power leg can supply 120 volts to neutral or the two can supply 240 volts from Leg 1 to Leg 2. The outlet is protected by a double breaker rated at 50 amps on each leg. What that means is there are TWO 50 amp breakers, usually physically connected together, supplying the RV with current. (If you flip the breaker off, both are flipped at the same time. )

Rusty

 

[jacqnbill]

i have a 2005 cedar creek 362bbs fith wheel

so now its time to install a washer and dryer.



i have looked at everything avaliable to fit a 24 inch cabinet

and the only dryer that seems to be large enough are the 220

volt units.



i understand that this rv is 50 amp which means 2 110 legs.



my question is has anyone installed a 220 dryer in a rv and if so

how does this effect the reliability of the power source? ie kicking

breakers.



thank you in advance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you check the 50 amp plug in an RV park you will have 220 volts between the two 110 volt lines. This 220 is present at the RV breaker panel but is not wired to any RV plugs in the RV. They use this for load equalizing only. You would need to wire a 220 dryer plug in the RV to use the 220 for a dryer. I have done this and it works. You cannot run other major appliances while using the dryer without blowing breakers. PM me if you need more info.



Bill Davis

 

[CUMMINZ]

Thanks for the info Rusty. The next time I take the rig out I'll take my meter and prove to my notty head.